2022/23 Nathan Patterson

[toffeeblue9]

I don’t know, players come back from them but I’m not sure if they’re always the same. Van Dijk isn’t no matter how much the media spin it. People will cry ‘he was always rubbish’ but Bolasie’s ACL pretty much finished him as a top flight player and ended his career with us. Same with Mangala, same with Tosun, same with Besic. People may have had views on their effectiveness before but they went from getting minutes in the first team to being completely out of the squad picture.

Even as far back as Jagielka Arteta and Yakubu (can’t think of another club who has had three ACLs in one season), Jagielka bounced back the best but never truly had that lightning pace he had before. Arteta lost his edge, he relied on technique and became a deep lying midfielder that we saw at Arsenal but the Arteta who could play on the wing and take on fullbacks was gone for ever. Yakubu was completely finished apart from a swan song at Blackburn.

They’re career destroyers, there’s the odd player who has come back at a decent level but there’s not many who come back just as good. I wouldn’t trust any players rehabilitation to our medical team either. If it’s an ACL it’s a nightmare for the lad, let’s pray it’s not.

Yakubu ruptured his achilles tendon, which is actually a worse injury

 

[johnjoeefc]

A) you previously got annoyed by someone using stats.

B) Coleman runs forward aimlessly when he does go and no longer has the dynamism to do that and contribute adequately defensively.

Also, Coleman's defensive skills have always been poor - he lacks concentration, is too short and doesn't use his body well to compensate for aerial duels and has very poor positioning and lacks the pace he used to have to compensate for this. He is still fairly decent at doing a marking job on an opposition player but that's your lot really.

I wonder if Roberto Carlos was ever accused of being too short to play full back

 

[Toffeepot]

Think it's more,no news is no news. He may be having scans in Scotland or has traveled to Merseyside or London,he may have swelling that needs to subside.Bit early for a prognosis.

Yes of course. Swelling/travel hadn't occurred to me tbh.

 

[davids]

Just to lift some of the doom and gloom.

https://www.squawka.com/en/famous-footballers-acl-injury-recoveries/

 

[arch stanton]

I don’t know, players come back from them but I’m not sure if they’re always the same. Van Dijk isn’t no matter how much the media spin it. People will cry ‘he was always rubbish’ but Bolasie’s ACL pretty much finished him as a top flight player and ended his career with us. Same with Mangala, same with Tosun, same with Besic. People may have had views on their effectiveness before but they went from getting minutes in the first team to being completely out of the squad picture.

Even as far back as Jagielka Arteta and Yakubu (can’t think of another club who has had three ACLs in one season), Jagielka bounced back the best but never truly had that lightning pace he had before. Arteta lost his edge, he relied on technique and became a deep lying midfielder that we saw at Arsenal but the Arteta who could play on the wing and take on fullbacks was gone for ever. Yakubu was completely finished apart from a swan song at Blackburn.

They’re career destroyers, there’s the odd player who has come back at a decent level but there’s not many who come back just as good. I wouldn’t trust any players rehabilitation to our medical team either. If it’s an ACL it’s a nightmare for the lad, let’s pray it’s not.

Disagree, having had two ACL repairs myself, what you describe is classic confirmation bias. After and injury, every bad game/pass/slow movement is assigned to the injury as evidence he is finished, the reality being that this happens to all players all the time. Even KDB has off games, lesser mortals have more off games and more opportunity to apply confirmation bias. He's a kid at the start of his career, he'll be back good as new.

 

[bilyaletdinov_]

I hate the waiting, id rather just know

 

[Groucho]

So have we decided he’s torn all his ligaments from head to toe and will never walk again?

 

[arch stanton]

Just to lift some of the doom and gloom.

https://www.squawka.com/en/famous-footballers-acl-injury-recoveries/

even that article is now dated, he mentions quad muscle atrophy but this is a much reduced side effect as the mobility of the joint is retained and mobilised the same day as surgery is completed. 20 years ago the joint was splinted for 6 weeks and that caused massive muscle atrophy.

 

[Connor]

Still alive, thats good news

 

[davek]

Or can cause slight over compensation on the other side but the Fitness Dept (I know, even Everton's) would be all over that.
This was an injury sustained by sheer determination and an unfortunate collision. Could've happened to anyone battling for the ball like that
I'd be more concerned about him starting to hold back slightly over time because it must be very frustrating for him to miss out again

Yes, but that doesn't rule out a structural weakness.

 

[davids]

So have we decided he’s torn all his ligaments from head to toe and will never walk again?

? doomed. Next stop Heart of Midlothian reserves.

 

[davek]

Prophetic?

2022/23 - Anthony Gordon

I'd much rather players show passion and fight like that - even if it can be slightly misplaced at times. The alternative is a team of meek, piss weak fannies like Keane The 80’s side often snarled with each other. No issues with it personally. Gordon looked to me like he was carrying a knock...

www.grandoldteam.com

 

[Toffeepot]

Prophetic?

2022/23 - Anthony Gordon

I'd much rather players show passion and fight like that - even if it can be slightly misplaced at times. The alternative is a team of meek, piss weak fannies like Keane The 80’s side often snarled with each other. No issues with it personally. Gordon looked to me like he was carrying a knock...

www.grandoldteam.com

of course not!
Throw a thousand things at a wall, something is bound to stick!

 

[Encoder]

Yakubu ruptured his achilles tendon, which is actually a worse injury

Dont entirely disagree but one of Arteta's final games for us was against newcastle as a winger as I recall and he completely dominated them.

Edit: apologies, meant to reply to @Saint Domingo

 

[neil999]

Still alive, thats good news

Location a and e ?