2020/21 Cenk Tosun

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You, after admiting that you know nothing about the symbol's background etc still trying to convince people "War is peace".

I'm not trying to convince anyone of that at all, fgs.

I'm saying we cannot prove, at all, that Tosun made that symbol with any intent.

It's hardly conclusive proof either, with the video. It lasts about a second. He hasn't gone to the camera and displayed it clearly, has he?

If he had admitted to doing it, or if we could prove he intentionally did it, then yes, we should take appropriate responses and deal with it. But, as fans, we simply do not know that to be the case.

My wider point was that if this was a player more in favour, then the reaction from the fans – whether they know about the background of the symbol it or not – would be extremely different.
 
Good finish today (well two really), credit where it's due and all that.

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Pmsl what can they do go through the blokes WhatsApp and check he didn't tell the leader of the Grey Wolf that he was going to do a celebration when he next scores? lol

The more our own fans make a mountain over a molehill the less likely we will be able to sell the bugger.

No, it means him hauling his arse in front of an FA Committee and explaining himself properly and unless he can convince with sincerity that it wasn't intended then he should be punished. Call that "innocent until proven guilty" sure but he has more than once done goal celebrations signalling his support for ethnic cleansing of Kurds, something this supposed Grey Wolves death squad are involved with. He is an example of a player NOT deserving the benefit of the doubt when something like this occurs, he's scum.
 




Cenk Tosun has denied he celebrated a goal with the hand gesture of a far-right group in Everton's FA Cup win over Rotherham.

The Turkey striker would have his - and the Blues' - second goal of the third round tie ruled out for offside by the VAR but Tosun wheeled away having converted James Rodriguez's free-kick.

But Tosun's celebration of the goal sparked some controversy after it was suggested he may have formed the sign of a far-right group the 'Grey Wolves' with his left hand.

Club officials spoke to Tosun in the immediate aftermath of the tie and the 29-year-old denied making the gesture, or even being aware of the group based in Turkey, who have been described as "ultranationalist" and were banned by the French government late last year after accusing them of: “extremely violent actions, disseminating “extremely violent threats” and creating "incitement to hatred against authorities and Armenians."

Tosun, instead, says he was simply pointing to the sky in thanks after sliding in to steer Rodriguez's centre past the Rotherham goalkeeper.
VAR would deem, however, that Tosun was offside and the goal was ruled out.
Everton would grab a second, however, when substitute Abdoulaye Doucoure ran onto Rodriguez's through-ball in extra-time.

Do we have a photo of him doing it because the above doesn't look like this.

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No, it means him hauling his arse in front of an FA Committee and explaining himself properly and unless he can convince with sincerity that it wasn't intended then he should be punished. Call that "innocent until proven guilty" sure but he has more than once done goal celebrations signalling his support for ethnic cleansing of Kurds, something this supposed Grey Wolves death squad are involved with. He is an example of a player NOT deserving the benefit of the doubt when something like this occurs, he's scum.

He's a bad man alright - but we aint ever getting shot of him if we make it into a massive issue.

Let it all die down and pray Woy or Sam take him off our hands.
 

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