1995-2020 = the longest barren spell without silverware in Everton's history

[Connor]

Mentality needs to change

I was a bit taken aback by the smugness on show at the recent AGMs, a bit of self reflection would of been more appropriate IMO.

I ain’t confident in Moshiri and co at all but I’d love them to turn out to be a long term success. And by success I mean challenging for and winning the main competitions and delivering a truly top class stadium. We’d all love that wouldn’t we.

And this “go and support another club” I’m seeing from some thrown at the more critical fans doesn’t help. You don’t have to agree with what they say but you don’t have to be a condescending bell about it either.

Another thing I’d like to see less of is the “worst case scenario” stuff banded about when things are challenged, called out or things are not doing well. The “we don’t wanna be (insert club)” stuff , instead of be careful what you wish for I’d like to see a little more “hey things could be better here” mentality.

We've been saying this for far toooooooo long. I have faith in Silva to do so, mind, but it's the common answer.

Good post though.

 

[mezzrow]

hitting back and getting some shift in fortune.

I see what you're saying, Dave. Please define the above for us. Of what does "hitting back" consist?

Speak to me like you would explain to an eight year old. Anyone can see that the affection we hold for this club has been used against us like a cudgel by those who claim the same affection while in management over the past few decades, all the while cashing the rent checks for their residency. How does this change, other than to walk away?

Specifics? How do we get Everton recognized as the asset that it is? Of what does that asset consist if not supported by our affection?

 

[Daytripper]

We've been saying this for far toooooooo long. I have faith in Silva to do so, mind, but it's the common answer.

Good post though.

Not trying to be a smart Alec, I’ve been saying it for years mate , bored mates to tears with it ha ha

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

But at least we have each other.......right ?

 

[BluePaul86]

This thread makes me want to cry and jump off the nearest cliff. I'm one the lucky ones who has seen us win a cup, though I was only 9 in 1995 and watched it at home with my late grandad. I fear I'll never see us lift a trophy at Wembley or Goodison. Them being so good just makes it that much worse too.

 

[Neiler]

Not good enough really.

Bar the Moyes years we have never looked close.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

If we dont win a trophy next season a shameful anniversary will be upon us: 25 years without a trophy win. That'll eclipse the previous barren period between 1939-1963 by a year (and that was as lengthy as it was because there was no football for 6 years because of a war). Since 1995, Leicester have won three trophies; Villa, Blackburn, M'boro, Birmingham City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Wigan have each won a trophy.

Our downfall hasn't happened by accident. It's happened because the club in the last quarter of a century has been run by amateurs who've squandered the greatest money spree there's ever been at the disposal of Everton in its history. It's gone nowhere. Spent on paying off loans (and the interest run up for those loans...and that's another murky area in and of itself). Those loans were taken out because a series of owners simply didn't have the wherewithal to make a successful takeover happen and they used the club's PL status as a credit card and a liberal sprinkling of player sales to keep themselves in position for a future sale. Oh yes, there's been poor recruitment of managers and players. The cash wasted there hasn't helped either.

But this has been an age defined by our former peers upgrading stadia / building new stadia in order to stay competitive and increase their chances of success, but Everton's owners were too dimwitted to ever get a stadium idea off the drawing board and built. Which should come as no surprise to anyone, because they are the same people who employed a variety of CEOs to cut deals which were appallingly small for a club of this size, people who exhibited no idea how to grow Everton into a commercially viable operation. They've all recognised the key problem, for sure, but that's only been in order to hide their failure behind the mantra of 'facility-led' recovery and then they fold their arms as if nothing else matters. And here we are now still waiting for it with promises of updates where a secured planning permission for a stadium and funding to build it should be.

So, as we head into our 25th year in the wilderness, take a bow Messrs Johnson, Finch, Kenwright, Gregg, Earl, Dunford, Wyness, Elstone, Moshiri...and you too Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

We wake up to the continuing nightmare of our local rival lifting another piece of silverware and taking their place in the sun while we remain firmy in the shadows, but remember that those named above are our real enemies, not an embarrassing cult who just so happen to share the same city as us. No one at Liverpool bollocksed us up for this length of time. The perpetrators of our quarter of a century decline all sat and sit in our boardroom at L4.

Spot on, great post mate.

Sadly though I see no end to our barren spell in sight. The people who run this club have us right were they want us, tucked nice and safely away in mid-table safe from relegation with no expectations beyond that. We as Evertonians need to demand more from this club amd voice our discontent more forcefully.

 

[Benedict]

If we dont win a trophy next season a shameful anniversary will be upon us: 25 years without a trophy win. That'll eclipse the previous barren period between 1939-1963 by a year (and that was as lengthy as it was because there was no football for 6 years because of a war). Since 1995, Leicester have won three trophies; Villa, Blackburn, M'boro, Birmingham City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Wigan have each won a trophy.

Our downfall hasn't happened by accident. It's happened because the club in the last quarter of a century has been run by amateurs who've squandered the greatest money spree there's ever been at the disposal of Everton in its history. It's gone nowhere. Spent on paying off loans (and the interest run up for those loans...and that's another murky area in and of itself). Those loans were taken out because a series of owners simply didn't have the wherewithal to make a successful takeover happen and they used the club's PL status as a credit card and a liberal sprinkling of player sales to keep themselves in position for a future sale. Oh yes, there's been poor recruitment of managers and players. The cash wasted there hasn't helped either.

But this has been an age defined by our former peers upgrading stadia / building new stadia in order to stay competitive and increase their chances of success, but Everton's owners were too dimwitted to ever get a stadium idea off the drawing board and built. Which should come as no surprise to anyone, because they are the same people who employed a variety of CEOs to cut deals which were appallingly small for a club of this size, people who exhibited no idea how to grow Everton into a commercially viable operation. They've all recognised the key problem, for sure, but that's only been in order to hide their failure behind the mantra of 'facility-led' recovery and then they fold their arms as if nothing else matters. And here we are now still waiting for it with promises of updates where a secured planning permission for a stadium and funding to build it should be.

So, as we head into our 25th year in the wilderness, take a bow Messrs Johnson, Finch, Kenwright, Gregg, Earl, Dunford, Wyness, Elstone, Moshiri...and you too Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

We wake up to the continuing nightmare of our local rival lifting another piece of silverware and taking their place in the sun while we remain firmy in the shadows, but remember that those named above are our real enemies, not an embarrassing cult who just so happen to share the same city as us. No one at Liverpool bollocksed us up for this length of time. The perpetrators of our quarter of a century decline all sat and sit in our boardroom at L4.

The entire board are looking down on you for saying that Dave, absolute filth they are.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

On the plus side we are happily free from glory hunters , pot chasers and the many other variegated species of arrogant self absorbed scum that infest certain more successful clubs.

 

[Benedict]

If we dont win a trophy next season a shameful anniversary will be upon us: 25 years without a trophy win. That'll eclipse the previous barren period between 1939-1963 by a year (and that was as lengthy as it was because there was no football for 6 years because of a war). Since 1995, Leicester have won three trophies; Villa, Blackburn, M'boro, Birmingham City, Swansea City, Portsmouth and Wigan have each won a trophy.

Our downfall hasn't happened by accident. It's happened because the club in the last quarter of a century has been run by amateurs who've squandered the greatest money spree there's ever been at the disposal of Everton in its history. It's gone nowhere. Spent on paying off loans (and the interest run up for those loans...and that's another murky area in and of itself). Those loans were taken out because a series of owners simply didn't have the wherewithal to make a successful takeover happen and they used the club's PL status as a credit card and a liberal sprinkling of player sales to keep themselves in position for a future sale. Oh yes, there's been poor recruitment of managers and players. The cash wasted there hasn't helped either.

But this has been an age defined by our former peers upgrading stadia / building new stadia in order to stay competitive and increase their chances of success, but Everton's owners were too dimwitted to ever get a stadium idea off the drawing board and built. Which should come as no surprise to anyone, because they are the same people who employed a variety of CEOs to cut deals which were appallingly small for a club of this size, people who exhibited no idea how to grow Everton into a commercially viable operation. They've all recognised the key problem, for sure, but that's only been in order to hide their failure behind the mantra of 'facility-led' recovery and then they fold their arms as if nothing else matters. And here we are now still waiting for it with promises of updates where a secured planning permission for a stadium and funding to build it should be.

So, as we head into our 25th year in the wilderness, take a bow Messrs Johnson, Finch, Kenwright, Gregg, Earl, Dunford, Wyness, Elstone, Moshiri...and you too Mrs Barrett-Baxendale.

We wake up to the continuing nightmare of our local rival lifting another piece of silverware and taking their place in the sun while we remain firmy in the shadows, but remember that those named above are our real enemies, not an embarrassing cult who just so happen to share the same city as us. No one at Liverpool bollocksed us up for this length of time. The perpetrators of our quarter of a century decline all sat and sit in our boardroom at L4.

The entire board are looking down on you for saying that Dave, absolute filth they are.

 

[Tipp blue]

The mentality is the most worrying thing. They've been average in a lot of games this season but the mentality has seen them through.

The difference as far as I can see is the fans, when Liverpool are not performing well the fans get right behind them and give the team a lift and they get through it.. when we are not preforming well we moan and boo and the players respond in a negative way.. I've seen Everton fans having a laugh at Liverpool fans for the banners they've made and call it kopite behavior and embarrassing... well they have just won the champions league and we are here discussing a record drought for silverware.. tell me which is embarrassing.

 

[ToffeeTim]

People clapped Kenwright. People think he has done a great job.

You don't become a succesful club when you hail the problem as a saviour and overrate players who should never have been deemed good enough to play for us.

It used to really wind me up but I try not to let it bother me as much. If the people who run the club aren't doing their very best to push us forward and compete. And if the people we sit beside on a weekly basis don't demand better from the team, then little is going to change.

I just want to see us win more football matches and improve. I'd love a trophy. But we are a club ingrained in failure and mediocrity so it's not very realistic.

 

[dannyboy]

The difference as far as I can see is the fans, when Liverpool are not performing well the fans get right behind them and give the team a lift and they get through it.. when we are not preforming well we moan and boo and the players respond in a negative way.. I've seen Everton fans having a laugh at Liverpool fans for the banners they've made and call it kopite behavior and embarrassing... well they have just won the champions league and we are here discussing a record drought for silverware.. tell me which is embarrassing.

Right now the difference is not one of our players would make it into their starting XI. You can question as to why that is the case and start to think whether it´s because we as a fan base have been accepting of mediocrity for far too long.

 

[TheSecondComing]

@davek brilliant post mate.

Hopefully Brands and silva can change something and get us believing but we’ve seen far too many false dawns.

Long suffering fans us and we should demand more.

 

[chrismpw]

What the club has been doing wrong is trying to win on the pitch with players. To win modern football our owners need to schmooze with the media and their script writers. Perhaps our usp should be our history and a Phoenix like rise back to the top, to sell the epl brand.

Then we'll be involved in the script. We'll suddenly get the advantageous ref decisions, the offside goals, the red cards for opposition etc. to help the story of the season along.

Leicester had their chapter just when people were getting bored with the predictability of the epl brand. Must've schmoozed well to get that chance.