Transfer Rumour Douglas Luiz

[BlueStevie35]

Embarrassing that this is a separate thread.

A transfer that won’t happen for a multitude of reasons.

We seriously need to knock this attitude on the head, starting to think some would genuinely prefer us signing crap to stay crap so they can stay miserable

 

[blulouie]

Balzarini sounds sure it’s happening. They’re just haggling over the structure. He doesn’t mention any competition, so it seems like a normal part of the process.

You've done well digging this out mate.
But for me every season we get Italians spinning stories and they very rarely happen.
On the face of it ( never heard of this Balzarini before you mentioned him ) he looks close to Juve's dealings.So there could be some substance to it.
But the usual journos don't seem to be following it up.
If and it's a big If it's as advanced as this guy says it is that suggests there would be agreement with the player.
Hope it happens because he is a quality player but still on the sceptical side atm.

 

[Joey66]

This is another one I just can’t see happening

Alan Myers says no .....

 

[BlueStevie35]

Alan Myers says no .....

Myers knows zip all until it’s nearly done and even then he still thinks it’s an extra 2-4 days to seal it

 

[Zatara]

Here's the latest from Gianni Balzarini, who is a reliable source on Juventus, starting at 4:46:



Italian transcript

A rough translation:


Welcome to Everton, Dougie!

Someone chime in and correct me, but based on this and the previous video, it sounds like Balzarini is saying that there would be a 10 million Euro loan fee with either a 30 million option (Everton's preference) or a 30 million Euro obligation (Juventus's preference).

The 10M loan fee is pretty close to his estimated annual salary, so maybe that's a clue as to Juve's thinking.- have hos wages covered for the season and then get a good amount of the original fee back nrxt year when there's another few mil off their amortisation bill.

This is one that should go through very quickly as it suits all partys.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

if we only want a loan and juventus
want a sale they will just sell?

Think Juventus are open to a loan but want an obligation to buy at the end mate.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

All the arl fellas claiming they don’t find Luiz’s missus attractive.

 

[matty1878]

I’d rather focus efforts on more realistic targets.

There’s loads of players out there.

who says we aren’t?

the attitude of “ this is embarrassing”

is actually embarrassing

 

[FTY]

Here's the latest from Gianni Balzarini, who is a reliable source on Juventus, starting at 4:46:



Italian transcript

A rough translation:


Welcome to Everton, Dougie!

If true you'd think they'll end up in the middle and it'll end up being an option that turns into an obligation if he reaches a certain number of starts

 

[bluestevon]

Be a very good signing unless we tried playing him as a holding midfielder which he's actually not that good at. It's why in part he stank the gaff out at Juve. Luiz is pretty much a natural box to box mid.

Same as I think Alcaraz best position will be ultimately.

Big upgrade in the centre if we play him properly, but still leaves Gueye and Garner as whoever partners him - neither of which is a natural holding mid either.

not everyone we bring in can be 21-23 without much top level experience though so do need the right balance.

Want us to go for both Mcatee and Elliot this summer - yeah big outlay required.

But would leave us with potentially 5 starters without many top level games between them O'Brien, Mcatee, Elliot (or Dokes), Barry, Branthwaite.

So yeah we do need to make sure we have a good balance of experience around them too. (Obviously conjecture on who we may bring in)

 

[Zatara]

Be a very good signing unless we tried playing him as a holding midfielder which he's actually not that good at. It's why in part he stank the gaff out at Juve. Luiz is pretty much a natural box to box mid.

Same as I think Alcaraz best position will be ultimately.

Big upgrade in the centre if we play him properly, but still leaves Gueye and Garner as whoever partners him - neither of which is a natural holding mid either.

not everyone we bring in can be 21-23 without much top level experience though so do need the right balance.

Want us to go for both Mcatee and Elliot this summer - yeah big outlay required.

But would leave us with potentially 5 starters without many top level games between them O'Brien, Mcatee, Elliot (or Dokes), Barry, Branthwaite.

So yeah we do need to make sure we have a good balance of experience around them too. (Obviously conjecture on who we may bring in)

Expect he'd take Garners place and my take is that if were planning to setup to counter then him and Alcaraz could be exceptional on the quick transitions.

Add in a right mid/winger and there could be quite a potent threat being built out. Of course, we'd need to sign him first!!

 

[Mr Happy]

Be a very good signing unless we tried playing him as a holding midfielder which he's actually not that good at. It's why in part he stank the gaff out at Juve. Luiz is pretty much a natural box to box mid.

Same as I think Alcaraz best position will be ultimately.

Big upgrade in the centre if we play him properly, but still leaves Gueye and Garner as whoever partners him - neither of which is a natural holding mid either.

not everyone we bring in can be 21-23 without much top level experience though so do need the right balance.

Want us to go for both Mcatee and Elliot this summer - yeah big outlay required.

But would leave us with potentially 5 starters without many top level games between them O'Brien, Mcatee, Elliot (or Dokes), Barry, Branthwaite.

So yeah we do need to make sure we have a good balance of experience around them too. (Obviously conjecture on who we may bring in)

Branthwaite literally played for 2 seasons and O'Brien had a career in Ligue 1 too. Not sure what constitutes 'many' games but im willing to say that those 2 have experience in abundance. Plus you use the wiser older heads to bring the younger ones through. Its leadership.

 

[matty1878]

Be a very good signing unless we tried playing him as a holding midfielder which he's actually not that good at. It's why in part he stank the gaff out at Juve. Luiz is pretty much a natural box to box mid.

Same as I think Alcaraz best position will be ultimately.

Big upgrade in the centre if we play him properly, but still leaves Gueye and Garner as whoever partners him - neither of which is a natural holding mid either.

not everyone we bring in can be 21-23 without much top level experience though so do need the right balance.

Want us to go for both Mcatee and Elliot this summer - yeah big outlay required.

But would leave us with potentially 5 starters without many top level games between them O'Brien, Mcatee, Elliot (or Dokes), Barry, Branthwaite.

So yeah we do need to make sure we have a good balance of experience around them too. (Obviously conjecture on who we may bring in)

mcatee was seen in a hotel in city center

could just prefer L1 tho to the arndale

 

[BlueStevie35]

mcatee was seen in a hotel in city center

could just prefer L1 tho to the arndale

No one prefers L1 to the Arndale

 

[dutchblue54]

You just have a feeling Villa come in last minute and he goes back there. Fingers crossed and hoping the Friedkin group have a good contact with Juventus