2024/25 Harrison Armstrong

[DualityNSNO]

He wasn’t.

In what way? Tim was physically imposing and carried the ball well but misplaced or misskicked so many (what should be) simple passes, I don't think that's good enough for a 22 year old who's apparently our biggest up and coming player (despite being 22 which should be the age he's already established/establishing himself in the 1st team rather than barely playing).

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

What if he just turns into a solid Premier League squad player for us rather than turn into Rooney or Barkley? Is that an issue?

If/when he does I'll be as happy as anyone.

 

[Eggs]

I think he's pretty similar to Sean Longstaff, which is funny seeing as 90% of us seem to think he's crap

….not sure I see them as similar types, anyway Longstaff is 27 and played over 200 games, Armstrong is 18 and played 18.

 

[Pabbers]

Moyes played Rodwell a lot when he was young, he played Barkley too. If kids are good enough he’ll give them game time, it’s just never as early or as often as his critics want but he’s not often wrong.

I hope he does play him, but more evidence to suggest he just wont.

Rodwell was almost 20 years ago, and he sent Ross out on loan to Sheff Wed & Leeds, Martinez got Ross into the team.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

….not sure I see them as similar types, anyway Longstaff is 27 and played over 200 games, Armstrong is 18 and played 18.

But if you had to make a bet would you think HA will have a better or worse career than Longstaff?

 

[Eggs]

I hope he does play him, but more evidence to suggest he just wont.

Rodwell was almost 20 years ago, and he sent Ross out on loan to Sheff Wed & Leeds, Martinez got Ross into the team.

….i remember Moyes saying to Neil Warnock that Barkley couldn’t be trusted to work out of possession, Barkley even struggled for game time on loan which was understandable.

It’s a nonsense to suggest Moyes wouldn’t want to play a very talented young player, indeed it’s a nonsense to suggest any manager wouldn’t want to play any talented young player but their form at top level will be inconsistent and game time will have to be carefully managed. If Moyes decides not to send Armstrong on loan, he’ll use him.

What’s more interesting to me is the position he plays, given he seems quite versatile.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Barkley even struggled for game time on loan which was understandable.

It was, but it also didn't happen.

Starter in all but 2 games.

 

[Joey66]

It was, but it also didn't happen.
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Starter in all but 2 games.

His hamstring was knackered when he left us ....

 

[Blueclouds]

Moyes favourite age in a player is around 23/24

 

[Furey1878]

Was decent yesterday

 

[mahermi1]

But if you had to make a bet would you think HA will have a better or worse career than Longstaff?

My opinion is he has a higher ceiling than Longstaff and I quite like Longstaff, quite excited what Harrison could bring Everton in the future, if coached right, glad Moyes is here for that.

 

[Eggs]

But if you had to make a bet would you think HA will have a better or worse career than Longstaff?

….Longstaff played 170+ games for Newcastle, so to an extent he’s achieved what all the youngsters dream of but I do think Armstrong has a higher ceiling.

 

[Pabbers]

….i remember Moyes saying to Neil Warnock that Barkley couldn’t be trusted to work out of possession, Barkley even struggled for game time on loan which was understandable.

It’s a nonsense to suggest Moyes wouldn’t want to play a very talented young player, indeed it’s a nonsense to suggest any manager wouldn’t want to play any talented young player but their form at top level will be inconsistent and game time will have to be carefully managed. If Moyes decides not to send Armstrong on loan, he’ll use him.

What’s more interesting to me is the position he plays, given he seems quite versatile.

I would love him to use him often, and let him learn and grow with us.

Just feel Moyes will farm that part of his development out, as the evidence suggests thats what he does, which is fine, most managers do it.

 

[Eggs]

I would love him to use him often, and let him learn and grow with us.

Just feel Moyes will farm that part of his development out, as the evidence suggests thats what he does, which is fine, most managers do it.

… it’s down to the basic point; ‘do I want access to this player this season’? Moyes will want to use a super talented player if he thinks it’ll improve results.

If Moyes decides to send Armstrong on loan, it’ll be because he doubts he needs him. Key this season could be the lack of numbers at Moyes’ disposal.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

He looks to have come a long way and he could help us with depth big time. The question for me will be is he filled out enough to deal with the physicality of the league? Would like to see him more in preseason. What he does potentially give us is versatility and the option to use Garner at RB as well in emergency situatuons. We will see if Davey thinks he is ready.