Richie
Player Valuation: £750k
Kopite Steve needs to justify splashing out hundreds on his shiny new barriers at Sandhills.
James Patrick
Player Valuation: £10m
We were always able to easily park outside the FMPZ and were not faced with an unreasonable walk to Goodison. If you're taking kids they're not sharing the public transport/parking cost to get to BMD, its all on you. For many it's just another cost on top of the increased cost of entrance which will tip the scales towards unaffordability for many in that situation
Timbucktoo
Player Valuation: £20m
One reason people travel by car is that public transport is so unreliable at times. I used to fly in to Birmingham quite a bit and get the bus or train up from there, as it was a good spot for a cheap flight as you could get caught out if you booked too far ahead and the game got moved. Since covid that has come to an end because you can`t depend on the trains running properly. Hiring a car if a few lads were doing the same route, but that seems a lot of hassle if you can`t park when you get here. Same for lads on the ferry. It`s a good way to get over when a game is moved at short notice but will be a bit of a nuisance if you can`t find parking when you get to the game.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £15m
It was clear from the start that this site was always going to be anti-car..... the stated required modal shift to public transport was a dramatic one, which appears to have gone over the heads of many drivers.
The issue then, being that it was also a bit of a public transport blindspot, unless you had direct access to Merseyrail (which only approx 20% of the local population do), which in turn was limited by station and line capacity. Proper marshalling increases the station capacity, but line capacity is pretty much fixed until signalling and other infrastructure is added.
The saving grace in terms of public transport is supposed to be proximity to the city centre and all of the public transport capacity there. However, at one mile just to the edge of the city centre (further to bus/train stations).... it is at the very edge of the reasonable walking envelope. Therefore, it is important for the shuttle bus service to be as efficient as possible, to essentially drag the site into the city centre. Allowing the vast majority to leave their cars at home. Of course, if that doesn't happen and the few access routes are choked with cars trying to park as close to the stadium as possible.... then the Shuttle buses cannot work. A transport catch-22.
The hope is that the Liverpool Waters, Ten Streets and other schemes linking the site to the city centre will prompt more hard-wired and fully segregated public transport very soon.
The issue then, being that it was also a bit of a public transport blindspot, unless you had direct access to Merseyrail (which only approx 20% of the local population do), which in turn was limited by station and line capacity. Proper marshalling increases the station capacity, but line capacity is pretty much fixed until signalling and other infrastructure is added.
The saving grace in terms of public transport is supposed to be proximity to the city centre and all of the public transport capacity there. However, at one mile just to the edge of the city centre (further to bus/train stations).... it is at the very edge of the reasonable walking envelope. Therefore, it is important for the shuttle bus service to be as efficient as possible, to essentially drag the site into the city centre. Allowing the vast majority to leave their cars at home. Of course, if that doesn't happen and the few access routes are choked with cars trying to park as close to the stadium as possible.... then the Shuttle buses cannot work. A transport catch-22.
The hope is that the Liverpool Waters, Ten Streets and other schemes linking the site to the city centre will prompt more hard-wired and fully segregated public transport very soon.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I dont think anyone would disagree that's a good appraisal of the problem and the short to medium term solutions.
The issue for most now is that literally NOTHING was done by the local authorities in the period between PA acceptance and the present to make sure:
a/ public transport improvements were seriously considered and planned for
b/ more effort to consider whether the (lazy) assumption that the walk into town was realistic - and if not "what then?".
Because of that failure we now hold our breath to see if this stadium can function with full capacity on the eve of a new season.
The craziest plan ever - and all of it is down to desperation: the desperation of a football club to - finally - secure it's facility-led future, and the desperation of the local state to use said facility to regenerate parts of the city they couldn't or wouldn't regenerate.
The worst of it for me is that there's going to be generational and health related consequences: there'll be a swathe of fans who were regular attendees at Goodison who will badly struggle to get to this new stadium. It threatens a Darwinian shake out of the fanbase. But maybe they modelled that and concluded it acceptable from a financial perspective.
BullensRoad
Player Valuation: £35m
Spot on Tom,
They built it with public transport being a major factor but LCC have let us down.
ultra
Player Valuation: £15m
Bluesnapper
Player Valuation: £10m
Again transport is nothing to do with LCC, it's Kopite Steve realm.
BullensRoad
Player Valuation: £35m
Is there a way to see your number on the waiting list without contact the fan services?
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £40m
Can’t everyone ride in on motorised scooters?
That’ll look like the biggest delegation ever.
Isn't that how everyone in Bootle still gets round?
Frenk
Player Valuation: £35m
I forgot to add a don’t feed the bloody horse sign.
Don't feed the humans,more like.
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