Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[Raino85]

Not sure Champions League or Europa League is much of a pull these days. You'll get more big matches against top opposition in Premier League than Champions League these days.

What does matter is style of play. McAtee is a good fit for Bundesliga that is end to end and every team wants to press high. That's the football he grew up with. That's the football he know.

He has tried to play for a lesser English team that is defensive minded, and it was a poor fit. He knows how his mate Tommy Doyle got his career ruined by signing for a team such as Wolves.

If he goes to Germany and does well, many of the top English teams will look at him in a year or two. None of them will look at him after playing a year or two for a team managed by Moyes. That's the unfortunate truth.

If Everton were managed by a Carsley or another manager that plays the football McAtee grew up with, knows and loves, he'd be interested. For him to even consider a club such as Everton now he'll need to be poorly advised.

Why not?

 

[Double Negative]

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Never knew Peter Mullan was in that film…
(probably because I’ve never seen it mind you).

 

[BlueBarrow]

Not sure Champions League or Europa League is much of a pull these days. You'll get more big matches against top opposition in Premier League than Champions League these days.

What does matter is style of play. McAtee is a good fit for Bundesliga that is end to end and every team wants to press high. That's the football he grew up with. That's the football he know.

He has tried to play for a lesser English team that is defensive minded, and it was a poor fit. He knows how his mate Tommy Doyle got his career ruined by signing for a team such as Wolves.


If Everton were managed by a Carsley or another manager that plays the football McAtee grew up with, knows and loves, he'd be interested. For him to even consider a club such as Everton now he'll need to be poorly advised.

If he goes to Germany and does well, many of the top English teams will look at him in a year or two. None of them will look at him after playing a year or two for a team managed by Moyes. That's the unfortunate truth.

Using your logic , I am amazed that Branthwaite is considering a contract extension. That's his career over with , apparently.

 

[Rich1878]

Never knew Peter Mullen was in that film…
(probably because I’ve never seen it mind you).

I thought it was the guy from the green mile? The one with the pet mouse?

 

[Double Negative]

I thought it was the guy from the green mile? The one with the pet mouse?

 

[blueblue]

If he goes to Germany and does well, many of the top English teams will look at him in a year or two. None of them will look at him after playing a year or two for a team managed by Moyes. That's the unfortunate truth.

Using your logic , I am amazed that Branthwaite is considering a contract extension. That's his career over with , apparently.

He really ruined the careers of Jarrod Bowen and Kudus at West Ham as well.

 

[Eggs]

Patterson deserves another chance under a new manager for us.

….might be a while before Moyes leaves.

 

[NikNak8]

Do you think they would have done if they had one for Palmer? It's all hypothetical, of course.

Surely it only works if player wants to go back. I suspect that mostly they are used similar to sell on clause. e.g. buy for 20m buy-back 40m, if sell for 50m then city get 10m.

 

[Neiler]

Press the intensify button Dan.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Not sure Champions League or Europa League is much of a pull these days. You'll get more big matches against top opposition in Premier League than Champions League these days.

What does matter is style of play. McAtee is a good fit for Bundesliga that is end to end and every team wants to press high. That's the football he grew up with. That's the football he know.

He has tried to play for a lesser English team that is defensive minded, and it was a poor fit. He knows how his mate Tommy Doyle got his career ruined by signing for a team such as Wolves.

If he goes to Germany and does well, many of the top English teams will look at him in a year or two. None of them will look at him after playing a year or two for a team managed by Moyes. That's the unfortunate truth.

If Everton were managed by a Carsley or another manager that plays the football McAtee grew up with, knows and loves, he'd be interested. For him to even consider a club such as Everton now he'll need to be poorly advised.

I'm not Moyes' biggest fan, but he's not Dyche. Where we would likely lose out to these Bundesliga sides is because they have a recent track record of competing towards the top of the table and playing in Europe regularly. We might feel like we are going in the right direction and might be full of promise, but many footballers will just look at the practical evidence of the last few years where we have been nowhere near it.

We will still attract some good players if we scout properly and put our minds to it. If Moyes coaches the team well and we get a top half finish this year, it will open up more signings next summer.

And even then, City might prefer him to go abroad after what happened with Palmer. We don’t know how interested we actually are too.

 

[kenada_blue]

We still got Dele Alli on loan?

 

[GoldenToffee]

Press the intensify button Dan.

Typically we missed the boat on signing him for about £15m. Without being overall spectacular for West Ham, they'll manage to tell him for 4x what they bought him for. He's far out of our price range now.

 

[Caso01]

We still got Dele Alli on loan?

Yes yes yes my friend.
The old dele loan gag.
I thought we’d lost it forever.

 

[blulouie]

Typically we missed the boat on signing him for about £15m. Without being overall spectacular for West Ham, they'll manage to tell him for 4x what they bought him for. He's far out of our price range now.

They paid £40mil for him.

 

[caliblue]

Why not?

A number of reasons.

What Everton do in training are different from what most clubs do. What Evertons players do in matches are different from what players from more offensive minded teams told to do.

McAtee have learned his trade in a club where you react by running towards the ball when your team give it away, while at Everton you run away from the ball to find your place in a low block. It's a totally different mindset.

There will be plenty of fullbacks in the league next season that have much more offensive positioning than Everton's wingers. 60% of your game will be defending and tracking runs deep into our defensive half. It is very rare in modern football to see offensive players be asked to play so deep.

Look at Bournemouth. Do you think it is completely random that their players are so attractive for big clubs? Do you think it's caused by good recruitment or the fact that Bournemouth has a style of play that is liked by analysts, scouts and managers throughout Europe? Sporting directors and managers see players do things that could be useful for their teams. It's all on the manager. And while results haven't been fantastic, he has added so much value to the club. And made Bournemouth very attractive for young players.

It is easy be impressed by Branthwaite putting himself on the line and defend great in Everton's low block. But that isn't useful for teams defending that low twice a season. There are thousands of central defenders that can look impressing in a low block.

If you look outside England, where club's can't rely on tv money and developing talent to sell on with profit is a necessity, teams have understood that to make money they need to mirror the tactics and style of richer clubs. Because that is their market.

For McAtee to do well for Everton, he'll need to unlearn much of what he has learned at City.