2018/19 Yerry Mina

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BirkenheadBlue said:
He's 6'1. Hardly what you'd class as tall for a CB
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I jest, in calling him a “centre back”. He’s certainly much taller that 6’1” by the way.

I’m not a fan and criticised him way back last year when we lost that home match to Burnley when Koeman was in charge. I said then, he lost every aerial challenge against their centre forward.

Mina and Zouma will be the partnership at the back. Silva knows what he wants.
 
Zonal marking leaves the defender with a 'standing start' so is at a disadvantage to a moving attacker.
The defender should move into his zone as the ball is played to ensure momentum is not lost.
 

BigDuncFunk said:
If he doesnt make Sunday thats at the minimum 6 weeks out with a 'small' foot problem.

Who the hell are we employing in the medical department Harold Shipman?
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Mirallas used to be our for weeks with what turned out to be imaginary hamstring injuries. Moyes just shoved him back on a week after his hamstring had supposedly pinged again and he was fine. You get pelters on here for saying it, or asked to prove it with a statistical breakdown, but it’s long been my opinion our medical team are poor in comparison to others in the league. We get numerous long term injuries which are always written off as freak injuries that no one can be blamed for yet they keep happening. Most new signings we get turn up unfit requiring a number of weeks to get to full fitness whereas other clubs don’t seem to have this problem as often. We take an age to get players back to full fitness if they’ve been out and when they return they take weeks to get back to a decent level. Even in the youth team this has been happening, the amount of severe injuries young lads have received playing relatively slow paced football is ridiculous. If I was Everton I’d be doing a review of all the pitches at Finch Farm and a complete drains up of the medical team. We won’t win anything when half our team is in the treatment room and our competitors are able to field the same 11 week after week. As much as I hate to reference that lot over the park, when was the last time any of their front three had any sort of injury? They’re being flogged every game often three a week and still don’t break down. Even injury prone players like Van Dijk Milner and Henderson have recently been completely injury free.
 
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Saint Domingo said:
Mirallas used to be our for weeks with what turned out to be imaginary hamstring injuries. Moyes just shoved him back on a week after his hamstring had supposedly pinged again and he was fine. You get pelters on here for saying it, or asked to prove it with a statistical breakdown, but it’s long been my opinion our medical team are poor in comparison to others in the league. We get numerous long term injuries which are always written off as freak injuries that no one can be blamed for yet they keep happening. Most new signings we get turn up unfit requiring a number of weeks to get to full fitness whereas other clubs don’t seem to have this problem as often. We take an age to get players back to full fitness if they’ve been out and when they return they take weeks to get back to a decent level. Even in the youth team this has been happening, the amount of severe injuries young lads have received playing relatively slow paced football is ridiculous. If I was Everton I’d be doing a review of all the pitches at Finch Farm and a complete drains up of the medical team. We won’t win anything when half our team is in the treatment room and our competitors are able to field the same 11 week after week. As much as I hate to reference that lot over the park, when was the last time any of their front three had any sort of injury? They’re being flogged every game often three a week and still don’t break down. Even injury prone players like Van Dijk Milner and Henderson have recently been completely injury free.
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That's just not true though. Keeping Liverpool as the example, they've had loads of injuries - Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Matip, Clyne and Gomez had long term injuries last year, Sturridge is an absolute disaster area, Ings hasn't got any of his original limbs left. It's pure luck that their best players haven't been affected, but the difference is that when Clyne missed virtually the whole season, Alexander-Arnold stepped up and was an improvement on him, whereas when Coleman was out injured, Kenny looked every inch a young lad filling in in a crisis.

We currently have a ridiculous injury list, partly our own fault for buying a couple of players with existing injuries and partly plain bad luck that we've had a couple of concussions and a couple of broken bones, which no amount of training will ever be able to prevent.
 
Lanolin said:
That's just not true though. Keeping Liverpool as the example, they've had loads of injuries - Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Matip, Clyne and Gomez had long term injuries last year, Sturridge is an absolute disaster area, Ings hasn't got any of his original limbs left. It's pure luck that their best players haven't been affected, but the difference is that when Clyne missed virtually the whole season, Alexander-Arnold stepped up and was an improvement on him, whereas when Coleman was out injured, Kenny looked every inch a young lad filling in in a crisis.

We currently have a ridiculous injury list, partly our own fault for buying a couple of players with existing injuries and partly plain bad luck that we've had a couple of concussions and a couple of broken bones, which no amount of training will ever be able to prevent.
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I agree with most of what you say, but last year Kenny was trying to get experience in a team that was struggling badly all over the field. Alexander Arnold simply had to slot into a team that was playing well and winning matches, I wonder how well he would have done in our team last year.

I think Kenny could make a real case for keeping the right back slot in the next few games.
 

Lanolin said:
That's just not true though. Keeping Liverpool as the example, they've had loads of injuries - Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Matip, Clyne and Gomez had long term injuries last year, Sturridge is an absolute disaster area, Ings hasn't got any of his original limbs left. It's pure luck that their best players haven't been affected, but the difference is that when Clyne missed virtually the whole season, Alexander-Arnold stepped up and was an improvement on him, whereas when Coleman was out injured, Kenny looked every inch a young lad filling in in a crisis.

We currently have a ridiculous injury list, partly our own fault for buying a couple of players with existing injuries and partly plain bad luck that we've had a couple of concussions and a couple of broken bones, which no amount of training will ever be able to prevent.
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We had a ridiculous injury list last year too though, and the season before that we had injuries to key players again. In 09 we had more cruciate ligament injuries in one season than most clubs have in a decade. We’ve had a ridiculous number of broken legs both in the senior team and in the youth team. We’ve had Hibbert’s utterly bizarre virus that nearly killed him, same with the injuries Vaughan Duffy and Coleman had too with gashes to their feet that became blood infections. We’ve had numerous players such as Traore and Mangala who got injured as soon as they started playing for us despite no real history of it. We’re the only team I can remember that actually injured one of its own players in training when Hibbert managed to headbutt Arteta’s rib and break it. Then there was Richard Wright falling out of a loft and doing his ankle on the sign that said no goalkeeping.

There’s a mixture there of pure stupidity, unbelievable bad luck, but also something more than that. Other teams have injuries yes but none of them have anywhere near the number of serious long term injuries that we have, and not many have new signings who immediately get injured as we have had.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Mirallas used to be our for weeks with what turned out to be imaginary hamstring injuries. Moyes just shoved him back on a week after his hamstring had supposedly pinged again and he was fine. You get pelters on here for saying it, or asked to prove it with a statistical breakdown, but it’s long been my opinion our medical team are poor in comparison to others in the league. We get numerous long term injuries which are always written off as freak injuries that no one can be blamed for yet they keep happening. Most new signings we get turn up unfit requiring a number of weeks to get to full fitness whereas other clubs don’t seem to have this problem as often. We take an age to get players back to full fitness if they’ve been out and when they return they take weeks to get back to a decent level. Even in the youth team this has been happening, the amount of severe injuries young lads have received playing relatively slow paced football is ridiculous. If I was Everton I’d be doing a review of all the pitches at Finch Farm and a complete drains up of the medical team. We won’t win anything when half our team is in the treatment room and our competitors are able to field the same 11 week after week. As much as I hate to reference that lot over the park, when was the last time any of their front three had any sort of injury? They’re being flogged every game often three a week and still don’t break down. Even injury prone players like Van Dijk Milner and Henderson have recently been completely injury free.
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Based on nothing but a hunch but I think we take more care of our players and make sure they're nurtured properly and we wait until they're near 100% before playing them. Compare that to the RS and they milk their young players for all they're worth, overplay them, don't care about their long term future and get the max out of their players.

Look at players like Owen and torres as examples. They were finished before they even hit about 28 because the RS just ran them into the ground. There'll be more examples. Sometimes maybe we have to be a tad more ruthless, we don't have players for long.
 
Goodison Groaner said:
Was walking fine in Formby Tesco last night!
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not exactly the best barometer for progress haha, I saw baines walking fine around DFS a couple of years ago after he had just been ruled out for months with his ankle goosed, strolling around everyday life is a touch different from 95mins on a football pitch

I know your not seriously implying that means hes fine like but still haha
 
Saint Domingo said:
Mirallas used to be our for weeks with what turned out to be imaginary hamstring injuries. Moyes just shoved him back on a week after his hamstring had supposedly pinged again and he was fine. You get pelters on here for saying it, or asked to prove it with a statistical breakdown, but it’s long been my opinion our medical team are poor in comparison to others in the league. We get numerous long term injuries which are always written off as freak injuries that no one can be blamed for yet they keep happening. Most new signings we get turn up unfit requiring a number of weeks to get to full fitness whereas other clubs don’t seem to have this problem as often. We take an age to get players back to full fitness if they’ve been out and when they return they take weeks to get back to a decent level. Even in the youth team this has been happening, the amount of severe injuries young lads have received playing relatively slow paced football is ridiculous. If I was Everton I’d be doing a review of all the pitches at Finch Farm and a complete drains up of the medical team. We won’t win anything when half our team is in the treatment room and our competitors are able to field the same 11 week after week. As much as I hate to reference that lot over the park, when was the last time any of their front three had any sort of injury? They’re being flogged every game often three a week and still don’t break down. Even injury prone players like Van Dijk Milner and Henderson have recently been completely injury free.
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The entire medical team was changed under Martinez and we got a new doctor halfway through the 15-16 season.

So, they must all be crap.
 

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