2017/18 Davy Klaassen

Adscum · October 19, 2017

This lad is the pits.

stretford blue · October 19, 2017

Like Martina and williams will be nowhere near the first team when a new manager is in situ

kenada_blue · October 19, 2017

nsno-chris said:
Like Lukaku, who was getting it from all ends for 4 years (even though personally didn’t hear it), or Stones. Literally every player will get at Goodison, sooner or later.

A couple of bad games and the meffs will turn, a new victim his highlighted and like sharks they’re on him.

I’m no big fan of Siggy, but I’ll put money on it he’ll be getting it before Christmas.

Players react to an angry Goodison, getting behind them, not a moody arse Goodison moaning and groaning

Absolutely. We have massive Ted's as fans.

But they all still had the quality to shine and showed it which winds them up even more. Stones telling the park end to calm down? Bottle on the kid. Lukaku having a go at our fans before and after he left? Bottle.

Barkley won't cos he's a blue who I believe would still be here if it wasn't for our current manager. But he'd still go out and try to show the fans his talent.

If you can't...well, you won't cut it at the top. I can't see Klassen doing it (brought up being the Golden boy of Ajax) and is Siggy goes, then it's Spurs all over again and he can't hack the big leagues

COYBL25 · October 19, 2017

Tom Cleverley > but four times more expensive

nsno-chris · October 20, 2017

kenada_blue said:
Absolutely. We have massive Ted's as fans.

But they all still had the quality to shine and showed it which winds them up even more. Stones telling the park end to calm down? Bottle on the kid. Lukaku having a go at our fans before and after he left? Bottle.

Barkley won't cos he's a blue who I believe would still be here if it wasn't for our current manager. But he'd still go out and try to show the fans his talent.

If you can't...well, you won't cut it at the top. I can't see Klassen doing it (brought up being the Golden boy of Ajax) and is Siggy goes, then it's Spurs all over again and he can't hack the big leagues

While I agree with what you’re saying, the players are still subject to nerves regardless of how much money or talent they have. And if you’re in a hostile environment you automatically act differently, it doesn’t help that hostile environment is your “home” and after a couple of minutes.

Goodison has become more and more toxic over the years. And the strange thing about it is you can normally predict the result outside the ground; if it’s dull and somber outside the ground, then inside it’s quiet and moody and then that transpires to the players. They are then petrified to do anything wrong.

Klaassen may well fail, he’s struggling bad. But he doesn’t need rubbish off the fans after his first couple of touches

kenada_blue · October 20, 2017

nsno-chris said:
While I agree with what you’re saying, the players are still subject to nerves regardless of how much money or talent they have. And if you’re in a hostile environment you automatically act differently, it doesn’t help that hostile environment is your “home” and after a couple of minutes.

Goodison has become more and more toxic over the years. And the strange thing about it is you can normally predict the result outside the ground; if it’s dull and somber outside the ground, then inside it’s quiet and moody and then that transpires to the players. They are then petrified to do anything wrong.

Klaassen may well fail, he’s struggling bad. But he doesn’t need rubbish off the fans after his first couple of touches

We did this to our best players over the last few seasons because they know they're better but don't have the brains to do anything else but boo. The garbage ones we hardly do it too because they might "try" and run around more.

It's happening now because we are awful. That stems from the manager. But also, we've spent a lot of money on these players. So when it's going bad, like with our best players, they're expecting more. They're expecting these players to get them out the mire.

Sadly, I don't think these players have it in them

Paul E · October 20, 2017

nsno-chris said:
While I agree with what you’re saying, the players are still subject to nerves regardless of how much money or talent they have. And if you’re in a hostile environment you automatically act differently, it doesn’t help that hostile environment is your “home” and after a couple of minutes.

Goodison has become more and more toxic over the years. And the strange thing about it is you can normally predict the result outside the ground; if it’s dull and somber outside the ground, then inside it’s quiet and moody and then that transpires to the players. They are then petrified to do anything wrong.

Klaassen may well fail, he’s struggling bad. But he doesn’t need rubbish off the fans after his first couple of touches

Why is he crap away from home also then? The fans don't make him shirk challenges, or misplace numerous passes or hit the ball like a toddler in advanced positions. He wanted a shot at the big-boy league and probably cries himself to sleep every night because he misses his Ajax comfort blanket.

Needs to grow a spine and act like a man. Captain of Ajax. Jesus

UsernameEverton · October 20, 2017

stretford blue said:
Like Martina and williams will be nowhere near the first team when a new manager is in situ

Williams can be a good player no doubt would rather a new manager come in and stuck with him. Albeit only if the manager looks to play a 4-5-1 and actually tries to win games rather than this rubbish tiki taka [Poor language removed].

nsno-chris · October 20, 2017

Paul E said:
Why is he crap away from home also then? The fans don't make him shirk challenges, or misplace numerous passes or hit the ball like a toddler in advanced positions. He wanted a shot at the big-boy league and probably cries himself to sleep every night because he misses his Ajax comfort blanket.

Needs to grow a spine and act like a man. Captain of Ajax. Jesus

He’s played 280 minutes of football for us, staggered over a dozen plus games. He’s not in his 3rd year. It’d be nice to actually see a settled team and formation before going for everyone’s throat

DrEFC · October 20, 2017

Literally one of the most spineless, useless performances in a blue shirt I've seen. Was desperate for him to come good. Just want him and Sandro away from the first team for the near future. Actually disgusted he gets paid for that tonight.

EFCPaul · October 20, 2017

Koeman keeps playing him in the wrong games. I feel sorry for him, he's been thrown in the deep end so early and isn't coping well.

He needs the rest of the season as a player who comes off the bench because if he's ever going to settle it needs to be done very slowly. Davies should be the main number 8 with Davy coming on to see out games and offer some fresh legs for the final 15 or so minutes, not vice versa. Hopefully that way he can find his place and pick up his form.

Baines took a while to grow into an Everton player, as did the likes of Pienaar and Fellaini. Certain players just need to used very particularly before they blossom. Don't give up on him yet blues. Even very limited players like Naismith improved dramatically once he found his confidence

nsno-chris · October 20, 2017

kenada_blue said:
We did this to our best players over the last few seasons because they know they're better but don't have the brains to do anything else but boo. The garbage ones we hardly do it too because they might "try" and run around more.

It's happening now because we are awful. That stems from the manager. But also, we've spent a lot of money on these players. So when it's going bad, like with our best players, they're expecting more. They're expecting these players to get them out the mire.

Sadly, I don't think these players have it in them

We are piss poor, and it’s horrible to watch. I’ve never been one for jumping on players backs at the games, I’ve seen league titles, Europe and fighting relegation. I don’t agree with it, and i think it’s inherently wrong and adds to an already poor situation. I can’t remember being this bad in the 90’s

Deckard2049 · October 20, 2017

nsno-chris said:
We are piss poor, and it’s horrible to watch. I’ve never been one for jumping on players backs at the games, I’ve seen league titles, Europe and fighting relegation. I don’t agree with it, and i think it’s inherently wrong and adds to an already poor situation. I can’t remember being this bad in the 90’s

We've been let down before but I think the promise of Moshiri and the hype from the summer has meant that this dreadful run of form has really hit a lot fans hard. This isn't just about individual players not performing. People are just fed up with Everton right now and it goes back to the old saying "it's the hope that kills you".

How many of those angry fans do you think were going into work and ribbing their RS colleagues this summer about the new "mersey millionaires"? How many finally got excited and told their kids that this was a new start for Everton as player after player arrived in the summer? We're in a very "I want it all and I want it now" society and people just don't have the patience for this now after being promised so much more. Perhaps only fools believe anymore, but still it hurts. We're a laughing stock right now after spending £150 million and people are mad as hell, but more so they feel like fools and feel embarrassed.