Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[ToffeeTim]

The conversation did obviously happen. But like all things like this I'm sure there's bits are true and bits aren't true. But Martinez shouldn't really be getting involved. Not for as long as he did anyway.

The Dunc thing sounds worringly plausible tho.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

For the 2nd week bounced I've only caught up with the presser tonight.

Body language & speech patterns are all over the show, particularly interesting how his whole tone & stance takes a downturn/shift toward subdued when Q'd about conversations with BILL & MOSH... his question deflection & buzz-word repetition remains spot on though.

Hoorah....!!!

Quite odd too how he cites working the same as he has done for 7 seasons - (like that's a good thing? Have you not progressed/learnt/adapted at all BOB? Oh....) - whilst also seemingly commending himself on his own 'consistency'. Hmmm...

If there wasn't so much ego about him I'd feel more sorry for him than I do.

Pressure's on, that's for sure...big week all round I think.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

The conversation did obviously happen. But like all things like this I'm sure there's bits are true and bits aren't true. But Martinez shouldn't really be getting involved. Not for as long as he did anyway.

The Dunc thing sounds worringly plausible tho.

...the take on it I'd like would come via the older fella in the vid, who puts his hand on the fans arm.

His is likely to be the clearest version.

#FindTheHandMan

 

[eurosrees]

Got to have a laugh at the idea of Ferguson slagging off his own manager in front of him, in order to look good in font of a "fan" he just met, during working hours. That almost definitely happened.

 

[bluewally]

Absolutely not.

You've forgotten just how stubborn Moyes was. Howard over Joel for the last twelve months? Think Neville over Barkley.

I want Martinez out as much as the next man but to even suggest that Barkley was going to see a tenth of the game time under Moyes that he saw in Martinez's first season is ludicrous.

Barkley was 19 just back from a double leg break and sent out on loan to get game time because of the development he missed

This Martinez youth policy stuff is nonsense

 

[smileychap]

Absolutely not.

You've forgotten just how stubborn Moyes was. Howard over Joel for the last twelve months? Think Neville over Barkley.

I want Martinez out as much as the next man but to even suggest that Barkley was going to see a tenth of the game time under Moyes that he saw in Martinez's first season is ludicrous.

Moyes had Barkley out on loan, in between nursing his injuries. Unlike Michael Owen and other young lads played too much too young, Moyes developed young lads similarly to the loan David Beckham had at Preston.

Barkley is not the finished article but fitness and injury won't hold him back.

 

[RFUS]

'I feel very privileged to have spoken to this fan' WHAT????

'top lad' this, 'sound lad' that.

Verdict: Knobhead.

I want Bobby out as much as anyone but some jarg twitter stuff is just that. Really not enough to be close to concrete.

 

[zandvoort blue]

Each to their own, but I think this "Wave a white hankie" idea is a bit grim.

With the snot-filled wonders that are going to get fished out of Park Enders' pockets and flailed around inside Goodison, we'll get all sorts of nasty diseases.

That, and that it reminds me of the French

So yeah, grim

 

[royalblue66]

With the snot-filled wonders that are going to get fished out of Park Enders' pockets and flailed around inside Gooduson, we'll get all sorts of nasty diseases.

That, and that it reminds me of the French

So yeah, grim

There will be a few waving their sleeves.

 

[riddick]

Moyes had Barkley out on loan, in between nursing his injuries. Unlike Michael Owen and other young lads played too much too young, Moyes developed young lads similarly to the loan David Beckham had at Preston.

Barkley is not the finished article but fitness and injury won't hold him back.

ehhhhhhhhh

 

[Baines' left foot]

Incredible stuff if true.




Full article


Posted by 1878blog on April 12, 2016 at 11:15 AM
Roberto Martinez met a fan yesterday night during an U21s game. Here's exactly what happened.

Last night, Everton U21s faced Chelsea U21s, and won 2-0. Get in! But that wasn't the main event at the game.



The Everton manager, Roberto Martinez; the Everton assistant manager, Graeme Jones; and the Everton head coach, Duncan Ferguson were present at this U21s game, and a lucky fan managed to have a chat with Mr. Martinez himself.



@Kingy_efc on Twitter posted a photo of the fan and Roberto Martinez having a conversation, with the caption: 'Some lad give Roberto [Poor language removed] before at the U21 game at southport tonight, time to go?'

Many fans speculated about what Laurie said to the manager, and according to a Twitter user by the name of @Deulxfeu, the fan said this through a private message to a friend:

Which then later extended to this message (I am unsure who originally posted this image):

So, the speculation continued, with the fan not even being identified. Well, I managed to find out who this fan was, and I found his Twitter. I had a conversation with this fan. He allowed me to post this information he has told be, but to keep him unnamed.



He is a sound lad - I'm saying that right from the start. We had a conversation about what went on and he willingly accepted to give me some information on the incident and explain what happened between him and the manager so I could let the public know what went on, and let the truth out.



So, What Actually Happened Then?



He explained everything to me - from the start to the finish. He gave me all the things he said to Martinez, and all the responses he got. I'll explain what happened now...



He started his conversation with Martinez by telling the manager, in his own words, "what everyone says about him."



He told Martinez, "You've lost everyone. Nobody likes you anymore. The fans are against you - even the staff are." He continued, "You're sitting on your own. Sort your head out. We're fourteenth in the league with a good side."



As you can tell, he certainly didn't hold back.



The fan told me Martinez responded with, "I made that side though and we're in the FA Cup semi-final. You Everton fans won't be on my back when I win you the trophy, will you?"



I don't know about you, but Martinez seems to be way too cocky in his response for my liking, with the season he's having.



The fan replied, "Yeah we will because, if anything, the club is going backwards."



He said he asked Martinez about the situation with Leighton Baines.



He explained the manager tried to blank him. Eventually though, Martinez just said, "That is irrelevant."



The fan didn't hold back and explained to the Everton boss, "You're a shithouse. Barry has said something - where is his apology? Lukaku has said he wants to leave - where's his apology?"



The fan then explained he also asked Martinez about the banners at the Watford game.



The managers response was, "Yes, I saw them. The fans should get behind the players, not against them in that manner."



The fan brutally asked, "What the [Poor language removed] do the players have to do with a banner with 'Martinez Out' on?"



He says Roberto Martinez blanked him, but mentioned, "Wait until the end of the season, then judge me," just before being pulled away by Graeme Jones.



The fan told me that was all between him and Martinez but Duncan Ferguson spoke with the fan just before the second half of the match.



Ferguson said to him, "I am not happy with it - it's painful to watch."



The fan also explained to me that Ferguson joked with him, suggesting he asks Martinez for his season ticket money back, and "see what he says." Duncan Ferguson then started laughing.



That is all the fan told me. That is his story from start to finish.





I feel very privileged to have spoken to this fan personally to get this information, and thankfully putting the rumours and speculation to rest.



People might say this is fake or that it didn't happen. Believe what you will, but I think this is the truth. I 100% believe everything this fan has said to me, and I think this is all legitimate.



It will be interesting to hear what Roberto Martinez will say on this matter - if he will even mention it.



I'd like to say thank you to the fan for giving me an insight into what happened in this incident between him and the manager. He is a top lad.



I plead you to share this around. Tweet this out. This is an exclusive explanation from the man himself, so this needs to get out there. Let the fan share what happened.

If this is true (no reason to doubt you but also no reason to believe you, don't take it personally) then Ferguson is a bit of a tit. Say what you want about Martinez and our season but he should have kept his mouth shut.

 

[1966efc]

I'll be waving white underpants. Mind, I've been doing that in Princes Park for some years.

 

[Mikeonlythebestwilldo]

Got to have a laugh at the idea of Ferguson slagging off his own manager in front of him, in order to look good in font of a "fan" he just met, during working hours. That almost definitely happened.

Could be true could be lies big dunc is one of us though

 

[ianefc]

If this is true (no reason to doubt you but also no reason to believe you, don't take it personally) then Ferguson is a bit of a tit. Say what you want about Martinez and our season but he should have kept his mouth shut.

The more I think about it, I don't believe it, it just suits my anti Martinez agenda.

 

[scratchnsurf]

If this is true (no reason to doubt you but also no reason to believe you, don't take it personally) then Ferguson is a bit of a tit. Say what you want about Martinez and our season but he should have kept his mouth shut.

Get down to FF and tell him how you feel about this BLF.