Everton Transfer Thread 2016

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Dymak said:
If you could explain how not having to pay 28 million pound upfront prevents you from having to pay 28 million pound eventually, then maybe us plums may be able to register what your point is? I doubt the money we received for Fellaini was paid in one go, but we still receive the money, and without being in receipt of such income we wouldn't have been able to afford Lukaku.
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It's like this: you use a crap joke to attract a girl and she doesn't like the joke, but likes you; you misread the obvious and thinks she likes you because she liked the joke; after you're done with her you repeat the joke on other girls, but can't ever figure out why it's not working any more.
 

roydo said:
Because, I guess, that the only substantial money we get in one go is the TV money. Maybe some sponsors as well I guess, but they will almost certainly be annual deals.

The Fellaini deal was important to RM because it gave him the leverage to get JM from Wigan; it is also why they, United, paid an extra 3 or 4 million at the 11th hour to pay Wigan the inflated price Whelan quoted late in the day. And maybe they wanted it up front as they had been relegated and perhaps needed the cash. No idea about that though.

I take your point that it all balances out over a few years, but the Rom deal was not contingent on the Fellaini one.
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I believe the TV money is also paid in separate tranches. But anyway, how can you come to the conclusion that the Rom deal wasn't contingent on the sale of Fellaini, when our revenues would have decreased by 28 million without the Fellaini sale? We would not have been able to make such expenditure if we had 28 million pound less to work with.
 
We haven't been linked with Scott Dann or Ryan Shawcross. Their clubs wouldn't sell them anyway.

John Stones isn't going to be sold.

I believe there's a forum rule about posting transfer things that have no substance isn't there?

Mods?
 

Dymak said:
I believe the TV money is also paid in separate tranches. But anyway, how can you come to the conclusion that the Rom deal wasn't contingent on the sale of Fellaini, when our revenues would have decreased by 28 million without the Fellaini sale? We would not have been able to make such expenditure if we had 28 million pound less to work with.
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Because we sold Fellaini a year before we signed Rom on a perm. The JM deal was contingent on the Fellaini sale, granted, but mainly cos, IIRC, Wigan wanted a big slab upfront, then added to the fee. (Hence the lateness of the deal as United were not delighted at effectively paying the Whelan premium). JM was bricking it that the deal would collapse. It also cost him more than a few bob in bonuses and stuff from Wigan.
 
SerenityNigh said:
It's like this: you use a crap joke to attract a girl and she doesn't like the joke, but likes you; you misread the obvious and thinks she likes you because she liked the joke; after you're done with her you repeat the joke on other girls, but can't ever figure out why it's not working any more.
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LOL. Sorry for being dense mate, but I'm struggling to see what this has to do with discussing Everton's transfer strategies?
 
roydo said:
Because we sold Fellaini a year before we signed Rom on a perm. The JM deal was contingent on the Fellaini sale, granted, but mainly cos, IIRC, Wigan wanted a big slab upfront, then added to the fee. (Hence the lateness of the deal as United were not delighted at effectively paying the Whelan premium). JM was bricking it that the deal would collapse. It also cost him more than a few bob in bonuses and stuff from Wigan.
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So we end up talking about cashflows again. I'll leave it through stating that the acquisition of Lukaku would not have been able to happen without the 28 million cash injection that we received from the sale of Fellaini. Obviously people are entitled to disagree.
 

Dymak said:
So we end up talking about cashflows again. I'll leave it through stating that the acquisition of Lukaku would not have been able to happen without the 28 million cash injection that we received from the sale of Fellaini. Obviously people are entitled to disagree.
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Indeed, it is more to do with cashflow. The biggest component of that being TV money, not the £15m or so left over from the Fellaini cash after Wigan had been paid. Which would just disappear into the general comings and goings.

Did the Fellaini deal make us richer? Yes. Was that the reason we could get Rom? No.
 
SerenityNigh said:
Because you're missing the obvious, although (almost) everyone is trying to respond to you honestly
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No, you're chatting absolute guff through making totally irrelevant analogies about telling jokes to females. Simply put, without the sale of Fellaini, our expenditure on players over the last couple of years would be about 28 million pound less than it has been. End of. That's the truth, and it has absolutely nothing to do with telling crap jokes to females.
 
roydo said:
Indeed, it is more to do with cashflow. The biggest component of that being TV money, not the £15m or so left over from the Fellaini cash after Wigan had been paid. Which would just disappear into the general comings and goings.

Did the Fellaini deal make us richer? Yes. Was that the reason we could get Rom? No.
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So do you think we would have still been capable of buying Lukaku and McCarthy if we hadn't have sold Fellaini?
 
Dymak said:
No, you're chatting absolute guff through making totally irrelevant analogies about telling jokes to females. Simply put, without the sale of Fellaini, our expenditure on players over the last couple of years would be about 28 million pound less than it has been. End of. That's the truth, and it has absolutely nothing to do with telling crap jokes to females.
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No. The only player we got because of the Fellaini deal was JM.
 

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