CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

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Moomin said:
Trophy winning manager <cough> Alex Mcleish <cough> Steve <cough> McLaren
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See they have the "killer instinct" and "nous"

The problem in the Premier League is that you cannot win it without being one of the biggest spenders, in fact no club has even challenged without spending vast sums on wages to get the best players.

Nobody is going to say Wenger is not a good manager but he has won as many trophies as Moyes has in the last 7-8 years. He didn't suddenly turn rubbish after winning the FA cup final in 2004, what happened was Abramovic\Mansour\FSG turned up and relegated Arsenal from the biggest spenders on wages to about the 4th or 5th biggest spenders.

It is ALL about money.
 

If we had the current side plus Rooney, arteta, and lescott, we'd have played champions league football in the last couple of years. That's the difference net spend makes.
 
It's Moyeses job to do what he wants with, nobody is going to sack him

He wants to stay....he stays...

If he wants to leave, even to have 6mths off and then worry about another job later. He can leave

Say he just leaves, he'll be climbing the walls by Oct - Nov; just in time for the new round of sackings and thus vacancies

That's if the current top 3 don't come in for him...yeah right.

Replacement:Heart;internal, Sheedy and Big Dunc.

Replacement: Head; internal, Neville.

Replacement in the real world will be whoever Moyes recommends ala Walter
 
We need to sign him up cos he a great manager, no right do we have to be in the chase for 4th place on the money this board invests in this club, we are starting to drop now cos of lack of investment but Moyes had given us a chance to fight for it? better then being in nowhere land at 11th and not fighting for anything.
 

electricblue said:
The big 4 ? So Liverpool are in the 'big 4' are they ?

Last I looked Man City and Spurs were in the top 4. He's won at both grounds. If you are going to use stats against him at least be objective and use the current top 4.
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yes liverpool are part of the percieved big 4 that has dominated the league for most of moyes' reign. Yet they're **** now and he still struggles to get a team to perform against them. He's only won at WHL when they were a mid-table/bottom half club. Now they're a force, he isn't winning there either
 
Swansea had the right idea. They already had Laudrup the top of their list before Rodgers had even left. They knew a club would come in for him and planned for it.
 
Bigmaclad said:
Swansea had the right idea. They already had Laudrup the top of their list before Rodgers had even left. They knew a club would come in for him and planned for it.
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I'd hope we could somehow snatch Laudrup from them if Moyes leaves. In fact I'd be more than happy if the board called Moyes' bluff and said we've got Laudrup lined up, thanks and good luck.

I get the feeling that Moyes is testing the waters to see if any jobs come up, and if they do he'll be off, if they don't he'll stay. That really shouldnt be the case.
 
Royal Blue Jersey said:
that's the point, that money went back into the side, but that is pretty much the only money that went into the side - his transfer funds have been 70-80% generated from player sales. If you look at other upper mid-table teams it will be less than 50%, and top teams even less than that with Utd (thanks to Ronaldo sale) and Arsenal as exceptions.
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What you describe is good business though (we are a business). We are operating to break even which is what we tend to do. If we buy a player for £5m and sell him for £24m that £19m was generated profit by the club. Therefore that £19m has been pumped back in by the owners? Can you not see this?
 

Little Ralphy said:
I'd hope we could somehow snatch Laudrup from them if Moyes leaves. In fact I'd be more than happy if the board called Moyes' bluff and said we've got Laudrup lined up, thanks and good luck.

I get the feeling that Moyes is testing the waters to see if any jobs come up, and if they do he'll be off, if they don't he'll stay. That really shouldnt be the case.
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Swansea are a well run club. Much like West Brom

They have a full time Chairman who runs the club, and they have a head coach rather than a manager.

This means that the structure remains even when the head coach leaves.

When Martinez/Sousa/Rodgers left they simply bought in a manager who liked to play the same type of football.

If Moyes left we'd be f*cked simply because the club have put all eggs in the Moyes basket. If he goes and takes his staff with him then there is nobody left. That is a scary thought.

If we replaced Moyes with Laudrup the reality is we'd do worse.

And for all the talk of Swansea's flowing football in the 4 games I've seen us play against them we've been the only team playing football.
 
Brennan said:
It makes more sense than saying 'Moyes spent £12m per season so he hasnt been on a tight budget'

Which is of course ludicrous. We didn't buy a single player for a period of about 2 years for God's sake.
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It would be more ludicrous to split it up into seasons where he has spent more and still never managed to win anything. He has spent money whether people like it or not. NET spend has nothing to do with it when hes recieved massive transfer fees and pumped all the money back in. Yes our owners havent give him £20m a season, but when the clubs made a profit from a player sale they've backed him. Bar Arteta who probably balanced the Fellaini purchase.

I sm not saying he has had more money available than Spurs, Chelsea, City, Liverpool. But hes has alot more than the likes of Wigan etc which some people would have u velieve he was on par with, with £2.5m NET spend figures. NET spend means nothing when you recieve massive transfer fees.
 
electricblue said:
The big 4 ? So Liverpool are in the 'big 4' are they ?

Last I looked Man City and Spurs were in the top 4. He's won at both grounds. If you are going to use stats against him at least be objective and use the current top 4.
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Doesn't it make it worse that Liverpool are no longer 'the big four' yet he's till has an awful record there?

Swansea have won at The Emirates, Stamford Bridge and Anfield in this season alone.
 

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