Lescott : would you have him back?

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Brennan91 said:
Sure, but acting like a bel is acting like a bel. It has a universal meaning.

Footballers have a different set of rules, but because it happens all the time doesn't mean it should be shrugged off as 'its the way it is'.
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Absolutely I'm not having 'it's the way it is' either. There's a right way & a wrong way of doing everything & Lescott acted in a way that totally disrespected the club, the manager, the fans & his team mates.
 

Brennan91 said:
Sure, but acting like a bel is acting like a bel. It has a universal meaning.

Footballers have a different set of rules, but because it happens all the time doesn't mean it should be shrugged off as 'its the way it is'.
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I'm not his apologist mate I'm Just saying its tough to compare apples and oranges.

I dont disagree with you but Like I've said before those in the game look at us like we look at cute wide eyes children and their view of the world . That's why there are pages about "would we accept lescott back" whilst moyes , his staff & players can just move on & not really lose a seconds thought about the 'morality' of it all.
 
Brennan91 said:
With respect mate, you're not getting it.

I totally understand that it's a business. In business, you don't sign a fixed term contract and then [Poor language removed] off your co-workers and boss to break your contract.

If you want to leave then you make your feelings known to the manager, and if he says no then you act like a man and not a tit, and see out your contract. Like a certain Steven Pienaar did.

People are confusing 'business' with acting like an absolute bel. Football being a business doesn't justify the latter.
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I do get it, im not an idiot! I merely disagree with you.

You mentioned people living in a dreamland earlier, I think you are living in one yourself here.

Dont get me wrong, in an ideal world I agree fully with what you are saying, but the footballing world isnt ideal.

Players are nothing more than commodities. He didnt break his contract anyway, he asked for a transfer which is the proper way to go about it. Afterwards he forced the issue somewhat but every player does that or is capable of it.

Do you think that all the players that we have signed in the past have been angels when it comes to leaving their former club? Of course not. Its just how it is. I dont get why Lescott gets so much stick when players like Arteta are revered by a lot of our fans. There is no difference in how they left the club in my eyes.

I think the biggest mistake people can make these days is to treat players like they are something special who would do anything for the club. Its not like that anymore, if it ever was in the first place.
 

I can understand the animosity towards him as his actions were not those we like to see and I agree with most of the posters on that. However we need be realistic and understand that footballers dont give a toss for the club in the most part. It is'nt just football but most professional sports seem to act in the same way, and that goes for the clubs as well how they treat some players.
I think the question we should be asking is would he improve us for the 2nd half of the season and would it be financially viable?
To be totally cynical we would be bringing him back to help us achieve our goals not so he can get off the man city bench. It isnt very different with the talk of Vossen that we are interested in, has any one thought what the fans of Molde think about our apparent interest?
 
Ihaters said:
What did he actually do that was so bad?
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He gave a half arsed perfomance because he didn't want to play for us and we let in six goals.

If we bought him back and he wanted to be here and gave 100% then great. But if he didn't want to play for us because he could play for City instead last time, why do we think it would be different if he got him on loan?

If he half arses it, I'd rather play Duffy.
 
Artetafan said:
He gave a half arsed perfomance because he didn't want to play for us and we let in six goals.

If we bought him back and he wanted to be here and gave 100% then great. But if he didn't want to play for us because he could play for City instead last time, why do we think it would be different if he got him on loan?

If he half arses it, I'd rather play Duffy.
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Not so, we were destroyed by Arsenal, but he was no worse than any of our back 4.. or most of the team for that matter. He was a convenient scape goat. If you ever get chance to watch the game again I would recommend it, we were dire to the man, they were excellemt, and we were fully deserving of our drubbing.
Only thing he did was to hand in a transfer request, then start getting shirty with people and dragging down morale because he was miserable as his best chance of being a success was slipping through his fingers.. not really suprised he didn't get MOM tbh.

Main difference between now and then is that he knows the difference between playing for Everton and watching for City.

To be honest though I still prefer the options we have at the club.
 

Why would he half arse it???

IMO the only thing he did wrong was that last performance and not applauding the fans who made a effort for him. I think moyes inexperience showed in that at the time, and if his head wasn't right he should not of played!

As fans if a player is not deemed good enough (rodwell) were happy to get rid/move them on....but have a major issue if a player doesn't deem us good enough for football reasons. That's not having a go at anyone it's just the way it is.

He had the opirtunity to go and be part of a major project and win things whilst getting paid very well for it. Seems they want better than him now, if he wants to go and fancy's coming back here then great... He will improve us and improve of our chances of 4th. That will do me, I care about Everton first, players second.

A loan deal till end of season with option to buy for about 5M would be great business. If we make CL buy him, if not we have the choice whether too or not.
 
I'd have him back in a heartbeat. Goalscoring centre half who can cover left back. He's just what we need. I don't really see why Pienaar was welcomed back with open arms and Lescott isn't (by some). Lescott had a stinker against Arsenal like the whole team did, Pienaar refused to play at Anfield. I know which one I'd have more of a problem with.
 
Some of you will think I am bonkers, but I honestly believe that Lescott is a player that 'got' Everton and I think he loved playing for us.

I don't think enough emphasis is given to the fact that Manchester City's riches make Real Madrid look like paupers. They play fantasy football for real over at Eastlands, and Lescott was being invited to play a part in a fantasy that became a reality, as he now has both league and cup winners medals to his name.

Whereas there is every likelihood that Lescott would have finished his career without any type of winners medal if he had not left for City.
 
Essex Blue said:
Some of you will think I am bonkers, but I honestly believe that Lescott is a player that 'got' Everton and I think he loved playing for us.

I don't think enough emphasis is given to the fact that Manchester City's riches make Real Madrid look like paupers. They play fantasy football for real over at Eastlands, and Lescott was being invited to play a part in a fantasy that became a reality, as he now has both a league and cup winners medal to his name.

Whereas there is every likelihood that Lescott would have finished his career without any type of winners medal if he had not left for City.
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Your money's money, is all that money's.
 
noharmdone said:
Your money's money, is all that money's.
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All I can say is that if I was a professional footballer, then medals and trophies would still hold currency and weight to me, and I think they do for quite a lot of other people as well.

I'm not doubting that being offered triple your salary also swayed him, but if you put the the two together then you can see why he wanted to leave.
 

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