2025/26 Thierno Barry



And that’s how it generally is for most teams. There were comments after Sat about how Newcastles signings have all been hits. But hall, livramento and Gordon were all long term signings. Gordon barely played in his first 6 months and hall and livramento played bit parts in their first seasons at the club as well. They were built in to the team slowly, to get them up to speed and ready. Unfortunately, we can’t do that as our other striker also isn’t prolific.

I’m not worried about Barry, there is talent there. My worry is Dibling, and not because there’s not talent, it’s because unless we are completely chasing games, he isn’t getting built in to the team at all which is a management decision.
I think those 3 are in slightly different brackets (to eachother and to Barry). Hall was only 18 when he signed for Newcastle, Barry's 23 so it's not really the same thing. Hall works as a comparison to Dibling but not Barry. Livramento played 20 odd games in his first season but he'd been out for over 12 months with a cruciate injury so he was always going to be a slightly slow starter. Gordon signed in the January for a team that had only lost 1 game all season and got on the pitch in every game he was available for for the rest of the season. I'm not sure that really counts as short term pain for long term gain in the same way people are talking about with Barry.
 

I'd be desperately trying to offload Barry and Beto asap and bringing in two others. They are both crap and show no genuine potential for improvement. Admit two further gigantic failures and try again with new players.
If we could wave a magic wand and get our money back on both as well as upgrades being available and affordable then Moyes would surely take that.

Dubious anyone would give us our money back for them. Think we’ll be stuck with loaning out Beto with an obligation to buy and persevering with Barry albeit hopefully as understudy to whoever we bring in.
 
I think those 3 are in slightly different brackets (to eachother and to Barry). Hall was only 18 when he signed for Newcastle, Barry's 23 so it's not really the same thing. Hall works as a comparison to Dibling but not Barry. Livramento played 20 odd games in his first season but he'd been out for over 12 months with a cruciate injury so he was always going to be a slightly slow starter. Gordon signed in the January for a team that had only lost 1 game all season and got on the pitch in every game he was available for for the rest of the season. I'm not sure that really counts as short term pain for long term gain in the same way people are talking about with Barry.
I’m not directly comparing their situations, but being given opportunity to build is important for different reasons. Barry is a little older than hall and livramento were but he is new to the country and league (having also played for 5 different teams in the last 5 seasons which is a lot of disruption).

He is possibly most similar to Gordon in that sense. Who whilst did get on the pitch every game, averaged half an hour a game. Ultimately being built up to being a starter. As I said, that would be the ideal approach, except we don’t have a prolific striker to allow that to happen.
 
Think the fans have been more than fair with both him and Beto, but think now have to accept the pair of them are useless. Does make ya wonder who scouts these players, has to be some accountability surely.
 

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