Sir Landon Of Donovan
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TX Bill
Player Valuation: £80m
I don't know what your problem is but the post wasn't aimed at anyone in particular. It was aimed at "anyone" who thought he was cack.
Now, if you want to start comparing factual posts, I'm all for that.
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SoCalMike
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Great observations TX Bill, on CONCACAF and otherwise. About Landon though, he rarely traps the ball at his feet. He normally deflects it into space, then runs onto it and in that second decides what he will do.
On the Galaxy you normally see more interplay and overlapping runs on the wings. Either with the backs or mids, there is usually a give-and-go option. Neville is more of a pure defender positioning-wise and he is not making they types of runs like a Chris Klein or Eddie Lewis or Dunivant or Franklin or even Becks make with the Galaxy. I'd say Baines on the left plays more with the defensive style that Landon is familiar with but I can see why Moyes has Landon on the right as Everton really needs crosses coming from that side.
One last thing on Landon, he is not the best at any one thing, yet he does everything pretty good. Mix in his work ethic, positive attitude and unselfishness and it's a pretty good mix. He's not Messi and not perfect but for whatever g-d given reason when he plays he usually impacts a game in a good way.
On the Galaxy you normally see more interplay and overlapping runs on the wings. Either with the backs or mids, there is usually a give-and-go option. Neville is more of a pure defender positioning-wise and he is not making they types of runs like a Chris Klein or Eddie Lewis or Dunivant or Franklin or even Becks make with the Galaxy. I'd say Baines on the left plays more with the defensive style that Landon is familiar with but I can see why Moyes has Landon on the right as Everton really needs crosses coming from that side.
One last thing on Landon, he is not the best at any one thing, yet he does everything pretty good. Mix in his work ethic, positive attitude and unselfishness and it's a pretty good mix. He's not Messi and not perfect but for whatever g-d given reason when he plays he usually impacts a game in a good way.
Onslow
Player Valuation: £500k
No doubting Andorra and the Faroes would get killed. But several nations in UEFA who miss out on the Cup would qualify with ease within CONCACAF. The Ireland side who lost through the auspices of Henry's hand comes immediately to mind. Comparing the two on a competitive level is like comparing the Sun Belt to the Big East in American college basketball. There is a vast gulf in quality and depth between the two.
If anything, Landon has the Carsley affect...it's just more visible. He rounds us out and makes thing work a little more evenly, provided we work the ball around.
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Kay20
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No one would disagree with that statement. Well, no one with reason.
But I believe TX Bill's point is that there are some folks saying stats are "inflated" by playing in CONCACAF, but there are some countries that could also "inflate" European numbers - countries like the Faroe Islands, hell, even Azerbaijan. Minnows are minnows.
It is a misnomer to assume countries in CONCACAF are pounding goals and assists home. I cannot begin to describe to you the frustration of the general technique of the smaller countries: PARK THE BUS.
In years past we had games against minnows like Barbados in the first round of qualifying. But the new qualifying structure lets them play with one another and gives the higher ranked teams in CONCACAF a pass. So we end up with groups with: USA, Jamaica, Guatemala, Antigua/Barbuda, Mexico, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, Canada, Cuba, Honduras and a couple of others that I can't remember.
Other than a couple of those teams, the vast majority are no longer pushovers. The US, Mexico should win those games. But I can't describe to you how often we see 11 people behind the ball playing for a draw and then playing for a bad ref decision at home or a fluke goal. These games are not won 8-0. They are typically an extremely hard fought 2-1, 1-0, etc with the US trying to find a way through 11 men. We should do it, but sometimes it ain't easy.
Let me put it to you this way: Mexico was in danger of not making it out of the Gold Cup semi-finals (they squeaked, and I mean squeaked, into the 2010 World Cup). They went to extra periods in a 0-0 game - I think against Honduras or El Salvador, can't remember. They worked hard against Guatemala to win in another game in the group stage. The US got beat for the first time by Panama in like ever in the group stage.
So to say stats are "inflated" doesn't quite understand how CONCACAF functions and hasn't seen the misery and excitement of qualifying here. Qualifying through this region IS easier than others, but to say teams will qualify "with ease" or it's a "cakewalk" isn't quite accurate.
That's our point.
Kurt.
Player Valuation: £100m
I personally don't have a problem, you quoted a post I had made so obviously your response was aimed at me, all I have done is pointed out the inacuracies in what you claimed I had said. Simple.
Kurt.
Player Valuation: £100m
ha ha, i manage to get by on little sleep tbh,, as for salries... no idea , i don't think that kind of info is open for public viewing...but to put things into context 30 k a week for Donovan would be peanuts when you consider some of the more ordinary performers in the league average around 50k a week i suppose, if rumours are to be believed Rooney is on 250k a week but this is all speculative.
Summerskin
Player Valuation: £35m
Landon ain't no superstar or answer to our prayers.
He's just a great player who fits in with the Everton way perfectly, shame he's off.
He's just a great player who fits in with the Everton way perfectly, shame he's off.
pfim
Player Valuation: £50m
Agree with the second part. The first part, I'm not sure why some here are so interested in labeling him. If we're going to label him, let's make it something fun like banana cream pie or unicorns and rainbows.
For all the crap MLS takes, one thing is for sure, it has improved the national teams in CONCACAF... definitely allowed many to close the gap between the minnows and US/Mexico.
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Kay20
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Exactly right. Jamaica is a prime example. That is not a bad team.
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Kay20
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From Arteta's Girl:
Just on a live blog from the Pienaar/Jelavic press conference with local newspaper reporters from the Liverpool Echo. Subject of Landon was brought up, they basically said LA Galaxy had made it very clear, they want him back and that is that. Would be very difficult to do business with them at the moment.
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Read: CONCACAF Champions League title or bust.
Just on a live blog from the Pienaar/Jelavic press conference with local newspaper reporters from the Liverpool Echo. Subject of Landon was brought up, they basically said LA Galaxy had made it very clear, they want him back and that is that. Would be very difficult to do business with them at the moment.
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Read: CONCACAF Champions League title or bust.
Skeleton Crew
Player Valuation: £8m
You can add a Venezuela, Peru and Coasta Rican teams. They have all benefitted greatly from the MLS. Not saying any of those three are going to win a world cup soon, but they are challenging whereas before they were chaff (more or less)
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