Philip Green

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Bluesnapper said:
With that circa £40million coming in, and if it hasnt gone to pay off debts, then where has it gone?
What £40m?

Are you saying that this is extra money over and above our normal turnover? That our turnover has increased by £40m to £122m? Because if not then I expect as part of our normal turnover it will have gone on pretty much the same items as last years accounts.
 
Who has even suggested that Everton should be sold at 1999 prices in 2014?

I was just making it clear that chairmen/shareholders frequently make massive profits from the football industry, and that Kenwright is on target to do just that.
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On 'other forums' and possibly this one, there is regularly a call for 'Kenwright to sell for what he paid for the club'. An absurd impossibility, I agree, and no one should begrudge any shareholder a profit on an investment if the value of the investment has increased, or at least they should be entitled to expect to 'get their money back' after inflation is taken into account. There isn't a businessman in the world who wouldn't want the best possible return on an investment, but there is a theory that what is holding back the sale or potential sale of Everton is the amount required by shareholders other than Bill, who came on board because they expected riches to be earned by whatever holy grail Bill had 'sold' them. In Earls case it was Kirkby, and Gregg bailed out when the riches he was promised from the KD failed to materialise. IF Green has lent money to Bill I doubt whether the money would be lent directly to Everton, although thats were it would/has finished up. Green invests in Bills shows....and genuinely is a great friend of BK. There are lots of ways for Green to help practically without making any commitment to Everton, but if there is a financial commitment, in whatever guise, this would need to be repaid as the club was sold, and if Green wanted beyond top dollar, Bill K could only find this by hiking the price of the club, probably stifling most outside interest.
 
On 'other forums' and possibly this one, there is regularly a call for 'Kenwright to sell for what he paid for the club'. An absurd impossibility, I agree, and no one should begrudge any shareholder a profit on an investment if the value of the investment has increased, or at least they should be entitled to expect to 'get their money back' after inflation is taken into account. There isn't a businessman in the world who wouldn't want the best possible return on an investment, but there is a theory that what is holding back the sale or potential sale of Everton is the amount required by shareholders other than Bill, who came on board because they expected riches to be earned by whatever holy grail Bill had 'sold' them. In Earls case it was Kirkby, and Gregg bailed out when the riches he was promised from the KD failed to materialise. IF Green has lent money to Bill I doubt whether the money would be lent directly to Everton, although thats were it would/has finished up. Green invests in Bills shows....and genuinely is a great friend of BK. There are lots of ways for Green to help practically without making any commitment to Everton, but if there is a financial commitment, in whatever guise, this would need to be repaid as the club was sold, and if Green wanted beyond top dollar, Bill K could only find this by hiking the price of the club, probably stifling most outside interest.

So, at the very least, Kenwright has screwed the club up by bringing this shylock close to Everton.
 
So, at the very least, Kenwright has screwed the club up by bringing this shylock close to Everton.

I think in Bills situation it was a case of 'needs must' coming back to bite him in the bum. IF the scenario I have merely suggested above is close to the truth. MY opinion is that Bill wants to sell...but the usual provisos, often quoted, still apply, and on top of that any favours he may have to return(there isn't a better way of putting that!), are an additional, and possibly major stumbling block
 

Or maybe he has nothing to do with Everton.

You could be right lol :

"Green played a major role in the acquisition of a key 23% stake in the Merseyside club by Planet Hollywood tycoon Robert Earl from Everton board member Paul Gregg, the cinemas and leisure multi-millionare."

"just the culmination of a longrunning relationship with Everton's other major minority shareholder, impresario Bill Kenwright, which also saw Green play a key role in the controversial sale of England superstar Wayne Rooney to Manchester United."

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-1603795/Green-at-heart-of-Everton-battle.html

"However, this summer the club secured a £15m credit guarantee, understood to be from Philip Green, a friend of Kenwright's and the owner of BHS."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/david-conn-rooney-may-have-gone-west-but-kenwright-is-looking-east-for-cash-6161455.html

"Florida-based businessman Robert Earl's decision to buy into Everton, as revealed by The Daily Telegraph last week, was engineered by his old friend, Sir Philip Green, the billionaire who owns British Home Stores and the Arcadia Group."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2348889/Green-oils-the-wheels-of-so-many-deals-in-football.html

"Green already enjoys Svengali-like status at Everton, having helped friend Bill Kenwright lead the True Blue Holdings buy-out of former chairman Peter Johnson in 2000.

Then last year, he was at the heart of the deal which saw Planet Hollywood founder Robert Earl buy Paul Gregg's 23 per cent stake in the club for £9m, a sum Green described as no more than a bad night for him at London's Les Ambassadeurs casino.

Green had a role in the transfers of Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney and Louis Saha to Manchester United, but his first love is Tottenham"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-484718/Greens-friends-market-Spurs.html

"Wyness refused to comment on his departure but friends said he had done nothing wrong and was helping 'an old mate' while on annual leave. It has been suggested that his departure was linked to Green's influence at Everton.

Wyness's departure prompted Green and Earl to sail from Sardinia to Mallorca for a confrontation with their former chief executive."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/aug/03/everton

"Word is retail billionaire Sir Philip Green, a not-so-secretive backer of Everton, could be about to take his ball and play elsewhere. Green has long been said to be the financial support behind his relatively impecunious friend Bill Kenwright, the Merseysiders' chairman, and played a role in the acquisition of a 23% stake by Planet Hollywood entrepreneur Robert Earl.

The talk is Green may be preparing to liquidate his Goodison commitments and focus his financial firepower on the club he really loves: Tottenham Hotspur. "

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/chairmens-pay-on-rocket-fuel--and-not-just-at-bp-6695398.html

"Last Tuesday, the dozens of expensive yachts in Puerto Andratx were somewhat overshadowed by Lionheart, a 208ft, £32m vessel Sir Philip Green had just sailed into town. The billionaire retail tycoon was accompanied by Robert Earl, the Planet Hollywood founder and substantial shareholder in Premier League club Everton. Green and Earl sailed from Sardinia on a mission. Before going on to Ibiza, they had some unfinished business with Keith Wyness, the Everton chief executive, who, the previous day, had resigned his post. The north London duo wanted answers. "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/aug/03/realmallorca.business

"the rumour mill keeps suggesting that Green either loaned the club money, guaranteed part of the debt, or even helped pay for striker Yakubu. Former chief executive Keith Wyness, who left Goodison Park following concerns about who was actually running the club, intriguingly had a meeting with director Robert Earl aboard Green's super yacht before his recent exit"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1052610/Manchester-United-struggling-shift-prawns-.html
 

lol

Every single one of those quotes either confirms Earl as the shareholder or states rumour -

"understood to be",

"has been suggested",

"Word is",

"has long been said",

"The talk is",

"the rumour mill keeps suggesting" etc
.

So I wouldn't be putting that forward as evidence.
 
lol

Every single one of those quotes either confirms Earl as the shareholder or states rumour -

"understood to be",

"has been suggested",

"Word is",

"has long been said",

"The talk is",

"the rumour mill keeps suggesting" etc
.

So I wouldn't be putting that forward as evidence.

OK, starting with the first quote below, show me where those phrases appear - do you have reading difficulties btw ? :

"Green played a major role in the acquisition of a key 23% stake in the Merseyside club by Planet Hollywood tycoon Robert Earl from Everton board member Paul Gregg, the cinemas and leisure multi-millionare."

"just the culmination of a longrunning relationship with Everton's other major minority shareholder, impresario Bill Kenwright, which also saw Green play a key role in the controversial sale of England superstar Wayne Rooney to Manchester United."
 
You could be right lol :

"Green played a major role in the acquisition of a key 23% stake in the Merseyside club by Planet Hollywood tycoon Robert Earl from Everton board member Paul Gregg, the cinemas and leisure multi-millionare."

"just the culmination of a longrunning relationship with Everton's other major minority shareholder, impresario Bill Kenwright, which also saw Green play a key role in the controversial sale of England superstar Wayne Rooney to Manchester United."

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-1603795/Green-at-heart-of-Everton-battle.html

"However, this summer the club secured a £15m credit guarantee, understood to be from Philip Green, a friend of Kenwright's and the owner of BHS."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...nwright-is-looking-east-for-cash-6161455.html

"Florida-based businessman Robert Earl's decision to buy into Everton, as revealed by The Daily Telegraph last week, was engineered by his old friend, Sir Philip Green, the billionaire who owns British Home Stores and the Arcadia Group."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-the-wheels-of-so-many-deals-in-football.html

"Green already enjoys Svengali-like status at Everton, having helped friend Bill Kenwright lead the True Blue Holdings buy-out of former chairman Peter Johnson in 2000.

Then last year, he was at the heart of the deal which saw Planet Hollywood founder Robert Earl buy Paul Gregg's 23 per cent stake in the club for £9m, a sum Green described as no more than a bad night for him at London's Les Ambassadeurs casino.

Green had a role in the transfers of Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney and Louis Saha to Manchester United, but his first love is Tottenham"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-484718/Greens-friends-market-Spurs.html

"Wyness refused to comment on his departure but friends said he had done nothing wrong and was helping 'an old mate' while on annual leave. It has been suggested that his departure was linked to Green's influence at Everton.

Wyness's departure prompted Green and Earl to sail from Sardinia to Mallorca for a confrontation with their former chief executive."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/aug/03/everton

"Word is retail billionaire Sir Philip Green, a not-so-secretive backer of Everton, could be about to take his ball and play elsewhere. Green has long been said to be the financial support behind his relatively impecunious friend Bill Kenwright, the Merseysiders' chairman, and played a role in the acquisition of a 23% stake by Planet Hollywood entrepreneur Robert Earl.

The talk is Green may be preparing to liquidate his Goodison commitments and focus his financial firepower on the club he really loves: Tottenham Hotspur. "

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/chairmens-pay-on-rocket-fuel--and-not-just-at-bp-6695398.html

"Last Tuesday, the dozens of expensive yachts in Puerto Andratx were somewhat overshadowed by Lionheart, a 208ft, £32m vessel Sir Philip Green had just sailed into town. The billionaire retail tycoon was accompanied by Robert Earl, the Planet Hollywood founder and substantial shareholder in Premier League club Everton. Green and Earl sailed from Sardinia on a mission. Before going on to Ibiza, they had some unfinished business with Keith Wyness, the Everton chief executive, who, the previous day, had resigned his post. The north London duo wanted answers. "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/aug/03/realmallorca.business

"the rumour mill keeps suggesting that Green either loaned the club money, guaranteed part of the debt, or even helped pay for striker Yakubu. Former chief executive Keith Wyness, who left Goodison Park following concerns about who was actually running the club, intriguingly had a meeting with director Robert Earl aboard Green's super yacht before his recent exit"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1052610/Manchester-United-struggling-shift-prawns-.html

Some of this lot wont have it unless you pulled out a video with Green fanning himself with Everton share certificates on board his yacht in the Med, with his feet up on Kenwright's back, smoking a cigar and muhahahahahing.

They actually believe the tail wags the dog and it's Kenwright calling the shots.

It's pitiful.
 
Some of this lot wont have it unless you pulled out a video with Green fanning himself with Everton share certificates on board his yacht in the Med, with his feet up on Kenwright's back, smoking a cigar and muhahahahahing.

They actually believe the tail wags the dog and it's Kenwright calling the shots.

It's pitiful.

It's a strange sort of denial, some of them probably believe it as well. Happy clappers ...
 

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