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Thread: Wasn't sure where to put this, just read it on a SAFC forum RE: The State of Everton.

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    Paulbefc: The State of Everton

    Turns out the mystery Evertonian was actually paulbefc from this forum. Well in mate.

    Every opposition fan reacts that way. Like we should be grateful for the **** we get fed every week, every transfer window, every AGM. It's not about spectacular nose dives into lower divisions or pending administrations. It's a slow burn anger building in the fanbase. It's about how the board and incompetence of Bill in selling the club are slowly dragging us down. The only reason it's been a slow process is because Moyes somehow, with a negative net spend, built a quality side that was in europe, smashing teams left right and centre in 07/08 (you will remember that no doubt). We needed to kick on from there and invest. But thanks to Bill we didn't. And since then we've slipped into decline.

    Every transfer window is dreaded these days. Last summer we sold Arteta, Beckford, Yakubu and Yobo and brought in two speculative loan deals. That is pretty much as bad as it gets for a team that's not in admin. Bill said that Arteta money would be spent. It wasn't. That's just one of the time-buying lies he has told. The Blue Union are the main protest group opposing the board. Their website, I believe, lists the lies they have told. It's a laugh to read, even for us. Sensational banter from Bill, especially, on many an occasion. There's only so much of this that a fan can take. The football is **** now as most of our quality players have gone (Lescott, Arteta, Pienaar - oh the shame of begging Harry to give us back a player on loan that shat on us and forced a move - and the rest may well soon. And we have to deal with this while the reds splash £100m on utter donkeys, just about finish above us and then laugh at us.

    Not even onto Moyes yet. Firstly, I love him. I think he's a good manager and a great fella but his tactics this season and most of last season have been so negative it's unreal. He's a shadow of his former self and what hurts is he's accepted that we're going nowhere. He's accepted that we're an average side and he's playing for draws against QPR and subconsciously giving up. He may well have killed our entire season last week in the derby. The fans would be compassionate if we actually had a go, but we don't. Many fans are now against him. I don't blame them. We play some dire stuff at times. When we play for a draw against Norwich at home, you just simply don't want to be there. This season has been the worst of the ten. Described as worse than Smith, Walker, Kendall et al. But yet, a few wins against the top 4 and Moyes is a miracle worker in the eyes of the country.

    Do you know how frustrating it is for a big club like ourselves to be portrayed in the media as "punching above our weight" every time we win a game? Because that's what they say every. single. time. Without wishing to sound kopite-like i.e. living in the past, we are the 4th most successful club in the country and this can't be tolerated. People on the outside don't think anything's wrong, only a few level-headed kopites really know what's happening and "get it".

    It's not knee-jerk. We put up and shut up for years. We're not kopites. We don't "love a good protest, mate". In 6 or 7 years we could go down if things don't change. Moyes could leave and no one will want his job. Who would? It's a thankless task. The fans have known this would happen since Collina blew his whistle on Duncan Ferguson at Villareal, but years of experience have shown there is nothing we can do about it. Some fans don't want to watch this happening. Especially those who knew what it was to see Everton as the biggest club in Europe and especially as we're not even having a go on the pitch these days. Ask any true Evertonian. They will tell you these are sad times. Not shocking, horrible etc just sad.

    If you don't think that's bad enough for 4 or 5 thousand less on the gate then fine. The away attendances are still exemplary but some can't bring themselves to going through it every week at Goodison. We're talking about lads who followed the team through decades of good and bad up and down the country. If you knew you'd get it. I probably haven't explained everything in this post. If a blue who has given up could post on here maybe he could explain better. But often they're the quietest of the lot.
    http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showpos...&postcount=533

    All credit goes out to 'Evertonfan', i don't know if he's one of you lot in disguise or just a good blue but i thought the above was a pretty fantastic post. Disagree regarding Pienaar but other than that spot on.
    Is right lar

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    Sums it all up, couldn't have said it better myself

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    spot on post that
    Quote Originally Posted by carlos21 View Post
    listen mate i am single aswell shall we go into blackpool fine some nice girls my shout.

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    there fans are pathetic ha!..Can tell there not used to this kind of occasion - On that forum ther's currentley an 'Everton Ticket Sales So far' - Countdown thread, where their fans seem to be counting each indivdual seat thats left on Sale! Last count was 6433 at about 10:30 If any ones intrested...?

    There's also the 'Tuesday Night - Can we make it the best ever??' thread.... 'Everton Support' thread where they appear to be 'wrongly' stating that we won't sell out our allocation - this later changes to 'they wouldnt of sold out if there wasn't free buses' & 'there away support is better than ours'..... my personal favourite however is the 'Sunderland Fans' thread where there all Congratulating each other for how great they were on Sat & discussing nice things ITV said about them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brennan91 View Post
    http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showpos...&postcount=533

    All credit goes out to 'Evertonfan', i don't know if he's one of you lot in disguise or just a good blue but i thought the above was a pretty fantastic post. Disagree regarding Pienaar but other than that spot on.
    sums up everything in a nutshell ,good on ye lad

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    Bang on.

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    Spot on all that.

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    We needed to kick on from there and invest. But thanks to Bill we didn't. And since then we've slipped into decline.
    This season has been the worst of the ten.
    Quoted for complete truth.

    Good piece that, hits a lot of nails bang on the head.

    On reflection, not ignoring the complete mess that was 03-04, this Season has quite possibly been the worst since then.

    In terms of football and of course results, I honestly dont wish to sound like a broken record, but as that fella says, we are reaping the results of selling our best players and simply not replacing them, 2 and a half years without signing anybody of merit, its unforgiveable.

    The only saving grace is we are actually still in the FA Cup, we lose on Tuesday and may God have mercy on our souls.

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    I wish I knew who wrote that so I could shake their hand and maybe give them a manly hug.

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    IT WAS ME LAD

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    Moyes has to go. Simple as. If not we will just get worse and worse because he's a loser. Bingham/Lee/Harvey - to name just three past Managers - were no worse that this man, but in their time were considered failures. This man has lasted 10 years and is definitely a failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFred#9 View Post
    Moyes has to go. Simple as. If not we will just get worse and worse because he's a loser. Bingham/Lee/Harvey - to name just three past Managers - were no worse that this man, but in their time were considered failures. This man has lasted 10 years and is definitely a failure.
    Yeah, but he's not going anywhere mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFred#9 View Post
    Moyes has to go. Simple as. If not we will just get worse and worse because he's a loser. Bingham/Lee/Harvey - to name just three past Managers - were no worse that this man, but in their time were considered failures. This man has lasted 10 years and is definitely a failure.
    YAR MARS A FAILURE

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    Quote Originally Posted by ijjysmith View Post
    Yeah, but he's not going anywhere mate.
    when you think about it hes never been given stick inside the ground after 10 years ,theres not another set of fans in world football that would not of taw into him at sometime ,which as fans i suppose we should be proud of

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluefox View Post
    when you think about it hes never been given stick inside the ground after 10 years ,theres not another set of fans in world football that would not of taw into him at sometime ,which as fans i suppose we should be proud of
    I have thought this a lot too mate.

    All very well people on here saying it. Makes no difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFred#9 View Post
    Moyes has to go. Simple as. If not we will just get worse and worse because he's a loser. Bingham/Lee/Harvey - to name just three past Managers - were no worse that this man, but in their time were considered failures. This man has lasted 10 years and is definitely a failure.
    B*llocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebluefox View Post
    when you think about it hes never been given stick inside the ground after 10 years ,theres not another set of fans in world football that would not of taw into him at sometime ,which as fans i suppose we should be proud of
    Why the **** should we be proud in tolerating someone who's not good enough to manage this club?

    We spit enough vitriol at the blokes at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summerskin View Post
    Why the **** should we be proud in tolerating someone who's not good enough to manage this club?

    We spit enough vitriol at the blokes at the top.
    Not good enough to manage the club? I believe we were batteling relegation when Moyes took over? If there is anything that is not good enough for the club then it’s our board, not the manager.

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    [QUOTE=Summerskin;1159361]Why the **** should we be proud in tolerating someone who's not good enough to manage this club?

    We spit enough vitriol at the blokes at the top.[/QUOi hate moyes more than any one but i dont fuken scream for him to be sacked every week inside the ground ,thats what i was getting at in 10 years theres never been crys for his head inside the ground ,

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    In Moyes We Trust.

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