£4m for Jagielka

[GrandOldTeam]

Daily Mirror today claim we're lining up a £4m bid for him.


Everton will make a £4m bid for Sheffield United captain Phil Jagielka but face a battle with Wigan to land the midfielder. (Daily Mirror)

I think he would be a good signing. Opinions?

[bluekiwi]

If that is true, I'd say grab him.

Was by far their best player all season, so is no surprise that he'd attract attention from other premiership clubs.

[chicoazul]

It seems we have a suitable alternative to Joey Barton.

He's impressed me when I've seen him. Got get em Moyes.

[BenRigbyEFC]

Go get him Moyes. Can play cb, rb, cm or even in goal by the looks of performances last year. 4 million bargain

[monty]

Wasn't he one of Walters lost generation, shown the door because he could play a bit. I seem to recall him being a blue. As a squad man yes please.

[CanadaToffee]

Added bonus, gives you the option of not having a keeper on the bench, so more outfield subs.

[Welton Toffee]

I'd be chuffed if we signed him. A quality player for £4m who isn't a thug :D

[Gazdalf]

I recall I said about a fortnight ago that I would like jag's, Nice to know moyesie is still listening to me, he will go far with that attitude. Jag's is a pro, with a good heart. Book him Danno. :) :) :) (y) (y) (y)

[Neiler]

Nothing against the lad decent player, but id prefer Barton (ok ill stop in a thread or two).

[Piijt]

Everton face a battle with Wigan to sign him. Please, those days are surely over.

[Bainsey]

I'd like to think so, would be a good signing.

[Robert Jarvis]

The new management team are talking to him to persuade him to stay.

[monty]

The new management team are talking to him to persuade him to stay.

He wants European football not S****hope Utd, he'll come if we want him

[Dylan]

He wants to come. To US not another interested club.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=457911&in_page_id=1779

[Rob]

Nice link Dylan but..

"Jagielka, 24, played a number of positions for his club last season but was used by England as a right-back and that is where Moyes sees him next season."


err... Hibbo?????

[Dylan]

Err, Hibbo is a great defender but by no means a complete right-back. Jagielka provides more than that.

This is a signing I would like to see happen.

[Rob]

but is RB a place we NEED to strengthen?

I agree, squad competition is always great, but surely our left side is weak (putting it nicely!) and needs more attention than the right.

[Dylan]

Both positions need replacing.

To be a Euro challenging team, we need RB/LB who are gonna provide the overlap and put in a decent cross to the far post, rather than the second tier (Hibbo, looking at you)

[Rob]

ouch, hibbo taking some flack.. thought he was one of more rated players, his lack of attacking ability finally caught up with him then.

[Dylan]

Don't get me wrong, defensively he is still one of the best talents we have, but that is only half of the game. It wasn't too long ago that was all a full-back needed to be, but with the game evolved, he either needs to learn to put in a decent ball more often than accidentally or make way for someone who can do both jobs.

Haven't you noticed his opportunities when fit have been limited because Pip offers more. He has only been in the team when there was a hole in midfield that need filling by Pip.

[McBain]

Hibbos been a great servant, but its time to start the upgrades.

[monty]

Hibbos been a great servant, but its time to start the upgrades.

I agree with that, I would go as far as to suggest that Hibbo might be better moving on as I still have nightmares when he set Utd up for their equaliser because yet again he didn't have a bloody clue what he was doing.:angry: :angry:

[Rob]

You might be spot on monty, but as I avoided watching the "highlights" of that match I never saw hibbo's slip up.

[Neiler]

Realisticly though the sqaud needs compition depth and cover. Weve three left sided full backs in Nace, Valente and Neville with Lescott able to cover too. While just hibbo at right back and Neville to cover. Ive nothing against having a bigger squad and players fighting for places.

Perhaps Hibbo has had it to easy for to long in terms of compitition. I mean you think hed take the ball out on the trainig gorund and work on his dstribution and crossing.

Something that worries me is that Jags is seen as a utility man. Although admittedly the advantage to this means that the manger can chop and change formations based on injuries suspension and rotation. I just often think that having that tag means that a young player isnt allowed to develop in a praticualr poisition and specialise in developing there all around game in that role.

Phil Neville is a priime example, a steady player in an awfull lot of positions but because he is seen as a "utility man" he never developed a specialised position and as such i think his quality and potentila and in many ways his career suffered. He is a staedy player but not a top quality player when you think of the players he graduated with from the Man U youth team. I remember when he broke through a year after his brother Gary, Fergie saying that the younger was the better player of the two. If you look at it now you have to say that gary became the more distingusied, higher profile and established when you look at caps and medals.

Dont get me wrong i think hes an important member of the squad but i just worry when players come in with the utility tag, I just think they never fully develop the way they should. Do we really need two in our squad?

You all know who id prefer to sign!

[Cal]

Everton hope to seal a £4m move for Sheffield United's Phil Jagielka as the utility man prepares to tell new Blades boss Bryan Robson he wants to leave.

The 24-year-old is believed to have a release clause in his contract and BBC Sport understands Everton will meet the valuation that will trigger a deal.

Jagielka was released by Everton as a youngster but is ready to choose them ahead of Newcastle and Aston Villa.

He impressed as a substitute for England B against Albania on Friday.

The Blades are hoping to hold on to their prize asset but interest from Premiership clubs, coupled with their relegation and Jagielka's own desire to further his England ambitions, means they are fighting a losing battle.

Robson may hope to spark an auction for Jagielka but it is believed Jagielka wants a move to Everton and Toffees boss David Moyes hopes to avoid a drawn-out transfer saga.

Jagielka's versatility appeals to Moyes, having figured with distinction at right-back, in central defence and in midfield for The Blades.

He even gave a heroic performance in goal for Sheffield United in their 1-0 win against Arsenal at Bramall Lane in December.

[Rob]

- "He even gave a heroic performance in goal for Sheffield United in their 1-0 win against Arsenal at Bramall Lane in December."

Replacing dicky then.... :lol:

[GhostOfDixie]

Well this guy is a snip at 4 million, he also means that we can afford the luxury of not having a keeper on the bench.

[Neiler]

Makes sense for 4 million decent price considering, age, potential, and versitility. I really hope this is an as well signing with either Fernandes or Barton.

If all is to be beleived you have to admire the lad having the commitment of wanting to come and play for us over the barcodes and villa. Bodes well.

Wed have some team of Evertonians if Barton and Nugent came in!

[Cal]

Very happy if he signs, plus thes 24!

very young for a versatile player.

[Welton Toffee]

Aye, would be a quality signing. Apart from all the awful 'Jag' puns in the papers :lol:

[monty]

Aye, would be a quality signing. Apart from all the awful 'Jag' puns in the papers :lol:

I'm delighted with this apparent signing, a talented young player who again wants to play for us despite what we did to him.

The one thing that does stick in my craw is the fact that this is another part of Walter Smiths appalling legacy, it was his decision to release Jags and Barton in the first place. He never once gave kids a chance, signed old players and wasted millions, that waste continues with DM having to re-sign this lad who made the grade at an early age shortly after leaving us and I believe that Barton would have been a different player if he had been brought up here..:angry: :angry:

[GhostOfDixie]

Well its not just Walter, the whole scouting network have let many slip through the net.

One thing can be said about DM, none of the youth that he let go have made it in the top flight.

[GrandOldTeam]

I'm delighted with this apparent signing, a talented young player who again wants to play for us despite what we did to him.

The one thing that does stick in my craw is the fact that this is another part of Walter Smiths appalling legacy, it was his decision to release Jags and Barton in the first place. He never once gave kids a chance, signed old players and wasted millions, that waste continues with DM having to re-sign this lad who made the grade at an early age shortly after leaving us and I believe that Barton would have been a different player if he had been brought up here..:angry: :angry:

to be fair mont, it could also be said he saved us at a desperate time.

gravesen, dacourt, materazzi, weir, gough, campbell... he did have an eye for some quality and his hands were tied by that kopite chairman.

I have a lot of respect for Smith... as you say he may have "wasted millions" but how many millions did he save the club when he signed the likes of Kevin Campbell? I lay the blame at Johnsons door for them days, not Wally. ( Walter smith discussion here (http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273))

[Robert Jarvis]

Per teletext today Everton are very close to signing Jag for about 4 mill.

[Bruce Wayne]

It does sound like a done deal.

[Bruce Wayne]

I don't really know a great deal about Jagielka apart from him regularly being mentioned as their best player. Whenever I've seen him he's anchored midfield. Is that his best position? Think he's also played centre back and right back hasn't he?

[chicoazul]

**** me. Ghost of Dixie. Alright mate.

[GhostOfDixie]

Hey Chicoazul, i'm fine. Well I will be once Jagielka signs, but don't expect Leonbil to be happy. :)

[chicoazul]

Good to have you here pal.

[GhostOfDixie]

Good to be here, although I have been here before. ;)

[Gazdalf]

well, looks like my jag request has nearly come to fruition, lets see if my rosenior for van swap occurs now.

[GhostOfDixie]

Although Sheff Utd are now refuting it.

[Gazdalf]

Although Sheff Utd are now refuting it.

true, I want to know more about this so called buyout clause that he supposedly has in his contract. anyone know anything?

[Axlswhk]

A cheaper version of barton. 4 million is a good deal.

[CanadaToffee]

A cheaper version of barton. 4 million is a good deal.

Also a better addition to the squad than Barton.

[chicoazul]

Its all gone quiet on the Barton front.

If the Jagielka thing goes quiet then expect a bid. But then I expect Jagielka to sign for us.

Perhaps Moyes is sitting this one out on Barton and waiting to late in the summer, if no one else has bid for him then he might get Barton for a knock down price. Aswell as Jagielka.

[monty]

I'll be staggered and mightily pissed off if DM goes for the scum bag Barton.

[Axlswhk]

Me too, nothing against barton except the higher price tag we are paying for something similar.

[Gazdalf]

we dont know the ins and outs of bartons career at city, only the headlines, slack jawed troglodites that buy the sun adn the star thought duncan was a thug because they had been prompted to think that by the gutter press.

if the police press charges for him battering dabo, they will also have to press charges against dabo for the initial assault.

this story has some legs in it yet.

on a lighter barton note, anyone see the last soccer AM, Noel Gallagher said" Barton said what all us city fans have been saying for ages and Dabo needed a kicking anyway, he is crap, most of the squad need a kicking to be honest" I like honesty. hahahaha

[monty]

on a lighter barton note, anyone see the last soccer AM, Noel Gallagher said" Barton said what all us city fans have been saying for ages and Dabo needed a kicking anyway, he is crap, most of the squad need a kicking to be honest" I like honesty. hahahaha

Gaz, are you suggesting Barton is in to "do it yourself"??????????:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Gazdalf]

Gaz, are you suggesting Barton is in to "do it yourself"??????????:lol: :lol: :lol:

oh yes my friend, hahahaha

also read today that Barton is going to be with hatton and rooney at hattons next fight. hmmmm, i wondered where barton learned to fight.

[Neiler]

Bit of a comparrison of Jagelielka and the Everton Squad stas from last year. Sky Sports Link:

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=469398&CPID=8&clid=11&lid=&title=The+Opta+Audit:+Phil+Jagielka


Tackleing stats really surprised me especially when up against Carsley.


You dont win games with stats i know but a bit of fun none the less,.

Intresting though that most of the media are assuming its a done deal!

[supabluez]

reports are sayiing whelan the pie eaters chairman will outbid efc forthe jag .what he doesnt realise is why would any one want to play for that load of garbage (y) (y) (y)

[chicoazul]

Same as with Johnson.

'Oi, Jags. Want a ride in my chopper, If you sign then I'll give ya a go of it'.

[monty]

Those stats make interesting reading, I think in the long term he will replace Cars. As for Whelan out bidding us, that won't come into it as he has a £4 mil get out clause so there can be no bidding war apart from which the lads wants Europe, he'd only get that at Wigan if JJB opened aq Paris branch:P

[Gazdalf]

Same as with Johnson.

'Oi, Jags. Want a ride in my chopper, If you sign then I'll give ya a go of it'.

good point chico, If jags is anywhere near as professional as AJ then his salary will not be the biggest thing on his mind, football will. As long as we can get a bid accepted then he will be ours I feel. DM will not waste time on money sappers.

[Neiler]

Hes defo heading fot the exit door then according to Brian Robson, he says:

"Keeping Phil looks like it is going to be a problem. He's told me that, if possible, he would rather stay in the Premiership, providing it's the best thing for both him and the club. My job now looks like it's going to be trying to ensure we get the best deal possible. That's what I'll be trying my best to do."

Whiping up a bidding war eh? Didnt deny a four million release clause all the same?

[micknick]

Bit of a comparrison of Jagelielka and the Everton Squad stas from last year. Sky Sports Link:

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=469398&CPID=8&clid=11&lid=&title=The+Opta+Audit:+Phil+Jagielka


Tackleing stats really surprised me especially when up against Carsley.


You dont win games with stats i know but a bit of fun none the less,.

Intresting though that most of the media are assuming its a done deal!

I think Sky have got way too much time on their hands- with no domestic or international footie they have gone stat mad. Does anyone think those stats look like a 1st year media student has done it?!


Jagielka's pass completion was relatively poor but this is something that he would expect to improve at a more established club.

[Bruce Wayne]

Assuming Jagielka plays in midfield that will free up Neville. Do you think he'll play right back or Hibbert?

[monty]

Assuming Jagielka plays in midfield that will free up Neville. Do you think he'll play right back or Hibbert?

They'll both play at right back only Hibbo will be right back in the changing room:P

[Namdrater]

I dont think we should spend anymore than 5million for him. He isnt anything special and we have to be looking to spend a bit more on better players if the clubs going to move forward. (like buying fernandes!)

[GrandOldTeam]

I dont think we should spend anymore than 5million for him. He isnt anything special and we have to be looking to spend a bit more on better players if the clubs going to move forward. (like buying fernandes!)

Welcome to the site Nam (y)

He has a min release clause of £4m :)

[Namdrater]

Thanks :D
I read something about the release clause, I just hope theres no way of that price bumping up!

I'm South African by the way (y)

[chicoazul]

Welcome to the site mate.

And well done on the rugby today.

[a2b chris]

hi mate, hope you enjoy it in here(y)

[bluegeorge1878]

get him signed!

[Axlswhk]

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=470010&CPID=8&clid=11&lid=2&title=Warnock:+Jags+should+leave

should leave, says warnock, but to where?

[chicoazul]

Here's what we thought about Jagielka coming.

[TX Bill]

Might take awhile longer but I believe he can be a useful addition. Some players take longer to settle into a new team than others. His confidence might be a bit low.

[chicoazul]

He's nervous but I dont think he's been all that bad in fairness.

[Rook]

He's played out of postition for almost the whole season. We'll be glad we purchased him when Yobo goes to Africa.

[monty]

Actually he plays better away from home. Some displays have been woeful but I agree give him time and if possible a settled role to play. At present he does not look like the blue who held Sheff Utd's defence together for more seasons than he should have done.....................end of season judgement in my book(y)

[Sim]

My gut feeling with Jagielka is that he's trying too hard to impress and he knows the fans are thinking "f**king hell, get it together jagielka" and you can kinda see that on his face.

He is rubbish at the moment but we know he's a better player than this so as long as we stick by him I think he'll come good.

[Bainsey]

he needs time, and so far im not convinced, infact im dreading yobo going away for nigeria, but im happy for him to prove me wrong.

[TX Bill]

My gut feeling with Jagielka is that he's trying too hard to impress and he knows the fans are thinking "f**king hell, get it together jagielka" and you can kinda see that on his face.

He is rubbish at the moment but we know he's a better player than this so as long as we stick by him I think he'll come good.

Very good assessment.

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Keeping my fingers crossed on him though.

[Robert Jarvis]

Give him some more time. I know some of his showings could have been better but Moyes liked him so give him some slack.